I don't know if I'm missing the point here, but it sounds like OpenID is
redundant. What we've got here is three subdomains with three
logins/accounts when they could all be using one instead. bugtracker/trac
are their own sites with their own thing going on and that's fine, unless
you want fancy integration. Really I just think that *.e.org should have a
single login (maybe managed/admind from users.e.org? :D), so that when i log
into the wiki i don't have to log in again when i hit the forum or exchange.
This isn't a lot of work - it's less! Just point at one user database.




On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:06:16 +0200 (CEST), "Dave Andreoli"
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >
> > ----- "Ethan Grammatikidis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
> >
> > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:12:02 +0200 (CEST), "Dave Andreoli"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > >
> > > > ----- "Sthithaprajna Garapaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Dan Kronstal
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > This seems like a really nice addition to the site, and a
> > > little
> > > > > more
> > > > > > cohesive than a separate site for themes and such, but as a
> > > general
> > > > > comment
> > > > > > on the e.org site it seems that it might be better to have a
> > > unified
> > > > > account
> > > > > > system. i have separate accounts for wiki.e.org, forum.e.org,
> > > and
> > > > > now
> > > > > > exchange.e.org? surely there's a better way...
> > > > > You're forgetting bugzilla & trac
> > > >
> > > > ...and forgetting also the users map!
> > > > Yes it's crazy to have all this account verification system, I
> > > think
> > > > the only reasonable solution is the use of openid.net (like every
> > > site
> > > > should do) in every service we have.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We do want to integrate them all so there's a single sign-on, but
> > > > > because they are all separate systems, this might be a lot of
> > > work..
> > > > > Any volunteers?........
> > > >
> > > > I could change the login system of the user map to openid
> > > > Dave
> > >
> > > How trustworthy is openid? I see they are linked to AOL and Yahoo,
> > > who
> > > might not be as well-known for data collection as Google, but I would
> > > be
> > > greatly surprised if those services don't collect user data. I also
> > > wouldn't believe what I hear. Much the same goes for other companies
> > > in
> > > their list. AFAIK data collection on customers/users is normal for
> > > corporations today, unless stated otherwise in legally-binding terms.
> > > There is no mention of privacy at all on openid.net's front page,
> > > which
> > > I find distinctly worrying. No link to a 'privacy policy' is unusual
> > > nowadays.
> > >
> >
> > I don't know exactly, I never used this service, but on the site they
> > say:
> >
> > Who Owns or Controls OpenID?
> >
> > OpenID has arisen from the open source community to solve the problems
> > that could not be easily solved by other existing technologies. OpenID is
> > a lightweight method of identifying individuals that uses the same
> > technology framework that is used to identify websites. As such, OpenID
> > is not owned by anyone, nor should it be. Today, anyone can choose to be
> > an OpenID user or an OpenID Provider for free without having to register
> > or be approved by any organization.
> >
> > The OpenID Foundation was formed to assist the open source model by
> > providing a legal entity to be the steward for the community by providing
> > needed infrastructure and generally helping to promote and support
> > expanded adoption of OpenID.
> >
> > As Brad Fitzpatrick (the father of OpenID) said, &#8220;Nobody should own
> this.
> > Nobody&#8217;s planning on making any money from this. The goal is to
> release
> > every part of this under the most liberal licenses possible, so
> there&#8217;s
> > no money or licensing or registering required to play. It benefits the
> > community as a whole if something like this exists, and we&#8217;re all a
> part
> > of the community.&#8221;
> >
> > This statement continues to resonate today within the OpenID community.
> > ------------------
>
> Well that certainly looks noble. Perhaps I'm a little paranoid to still
> be worrying about it, but I couldn't possibly consider all the
> implications now, and might not have the energy to do so for a couple of
> months. I would feel safer if openid wasn't the only login method. :)
>
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As to the actual subject, i really like the presentation of the
> > > site
> > > > > (actual
> > > > > > full screenshots of themes and stuff is great!), and the fact
> > > that
> > > > > as a user
> > > > > > i could do some feedback, or make my own contributions one day.
> > > > > That's
> > > > > > fantastic!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > Toma wrote:
> > > > > >> > > Ladies and Gentlemen!
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > We are proud to announce the launch of Exchange:
> > > > > >> > > http://www.exchange.enlightenment.org
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > This is a new website for exchanging themes, efl based
> > > > > applications
> > > > > >> > > and modules for these applications. It was built
> > > specifically
> > > > > for E,
> > > > > >> > > and therefore takes advantage of some of the features of
> > > edje
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> > > automatically detect themes and allow users
> > > > > >> > > to find themes for exactly what they want to theme.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Its also a nice place to showcase your applications and
> > > will
> > > > > hopefully
> > > > > >> > > become a central location for people to look for EFL based
> > > > > apps.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > We ask that developers and themers all spend a couple
> > > minutes
> > > > > looking
> > > > > >> > > around, create an account and upload some content as the
> > > only
> > > > > work on
> > > > > >> > > there so far is a few modules and all of my work.
> > > Remember,
> > > > > this is a
> > > > > >> > > great way to get some feedback on your content and for
> > > users to
> > > > > show
> > > > > >> > > some appreciation for all your hard effort!
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > For those that want to develop apps that pull/push themes
> > > from
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> > > Exchange, we have a full API documented here:
> > > > > >> > > http://code.google.com/p/e17-exchange/wiki/ExchangeAPI
> > > (please
> > > > > direct
> > > > > >> > > any questions about the API to iamsthitha)
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > mcalamelli is already working on an application that will
> > > let
> > > > > you
> > > > > >> > > download and install themes from exchange without having
> > > to
> > > > > visit the
> > > > > >> > > website and go through the hassle of installing them.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/mcalamelli/exchange.git;a=summary
> > > > > >> > > (this is still in very early stages as of today, but is
> > > > > something to
> > > > > >> > > keep an eye on!)
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
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