First, I don't know how to code, so I can't send patches :( (sorry for that)
Second, I like more QT (as in kde) apps, so I set GTK to mimic QT by using
oxygen-gtk theme or qtCurve theme.
I think Hannes work is awesome, I'm just saying that lot of people uses GTK
as well as QT apps, so why only support one type of toolkit?
I know, I know, there are tons of different toolkits, but being GTK and QT
the two most used, I think is not fair to just include one of them 'just
because I like it most'.
I can understand if this is technically non-viable, I'm fine with that. But
saying 'I don't know how it works and I don't care'.....sounds kind of
mediocre (sorry if it's sounds rude, that's not the point really)
Am I wrong to think this way?
And again, I'm not a coder, so I'm really sorry that I can't submit patches
to do so
El 25 de septiembre de 2011 08:52, Thomas Gstädtner
<tho...@gstaedtner.net>escribió:
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:06, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 02:45:47 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com>
> said:
> >
> > if E set this by DEFAULT (there is some qt gtk theme engine that can use
> gtk
> > themes and theme engines mostly in qt), that'd be best, but i have no
> idea how
> > qt/kde does this... so patches accepted.
> >
> >> Set your QT apps to use your current GTK then _ then this is already
> done :)
> >>
> >> On Saturday, September 24, 2011, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 00:26:08 +0200 "hannes.janet...@gmail.coms"
> >> > <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> said:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Wido <wido...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Sorry to be a jerk....but if it's going to be 'native' support for
> GTK
> >> >> > themes, shouldn't also be the same level of support for QT?
> >> >> >
> >> >> do you know how to tell qt to use a specific theme or to list themes
> >> >> available to qt? It would be good if qt could use XSettings spec.
> >> >> actually the property i set is Net/IconThemeName so it seems to be
> >> >> intended to work cross toolkit. though this spec seems to be only
> used
> >> >> by gtk.. I don't have a clue about how to do these things with qt.
> >> >> patches welcome :)
> >> >
> >> > as jeff said - patches welcome. xsettings is something gtk/gnome uses
> and
> >> > supports, and jeff did the footwork of implementing. now it's just a
> >> matter of
> >> > glueing it into all the right spots and adding a few more config vars
> and
> >> maybe
> >> > a few widgets in the config dialogs to swizzle them.
> >> >
> >> > if there are qt/kde mechamisms... please send the code! :)
> >> >
> >> >> > I mean, not everybody is a GTK fanboy =)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > El 24 de septiembre de 2011 02:41, Carsten Haitzler
> >> >> > <ras...@rasterman.com>escribió:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 05:37:07 +0200 "hannes.janet...@gmail.com"
> >> >> >> <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> said:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Carsten Haitzler <
> >> ras...@rasterman.com>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> > > On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 04:37:05 +0200 "hannes.janet...@gmail.com
> "
> >> >> >> > > <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> said:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> Hey,
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I've added xsettings-module to e-modules-extra. it's pretty
> much
> >> proto
> >> >> >> > >> but it does what I mostly wanted it for:
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> - set global icon theme to match the one selected in e17.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> - adding 'data { "gtk-theme" "theme_name"; }' to e17 themes
> >> allows to
> >> >> >> > >> automatically use a gtk theme matching e17 theme.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> in config dialog one can override these options to set themes
> >> >> >> explicitly.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > dude - this shouldn't be in modules-extra... it should be in
> core
> >> e! :)
> >> >> >> many
> >> >> >> > > years ago i poked around the xsettings thing mentally deciding
> we
> >> had
> >> >> >> to add
> >> >> >> > > this to e, but i just never got to it.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > yes, i would also like it to be in core when it becomes more
> mature.
> >> >> >> > should it go into conf_theme then?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> well the xsettings core support should not even be a module
> >> >> >> just in e's main code. configuration - eg to provide a gtk theme,
> >> shoudl go
> >> >> >> into conf_theme. the others (icon theme) are already there - just
> >> recycle
> >> >> >> e's
> >> >> >> config. i'd say the conf_theme should provide a dialog to select
> gtk
> >> theme
> >> >> >> (from installed themes on system) in a list. that's it. with one
> >> option
> >> >> >> added
> >> >> >> to the list "let enlightenment theme decide". from memory
> xsettings
> >> can set
> >> >> >> up
> >> >> >> fonts, dpi and other things too. probably something to add to the
> conf
> >> >> >> scale
> >> >> >> dialog and to conf_fonts dialog in e etc.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
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> >> --------------
> >> >> >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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> Setting Qt to use the Gtkstyle engine is easy: just set "style=GTK+"
> in ~/.config/Trolltech.conf
> However, doing this properly means you have to check for available
> engines, parsing the config, making sure there is a config and
> probably check for a dozend race conditions.
>
> As qt ships with qtconfig which does the job already, I don't see why
> to include that.
> Also, there is not really such a thing as Qt themes (there are a
> number of styles, but I don't think anyone has ever written an
> additional one outside of Trolltech), if anything there are KDE themes
> for Qt.
>
> Adding a link to qtconfig in the menu should be more than enough. At
> most, adding a button "Use GTK theme for Qt" could be done, which sets
> "style=GTK+" in the ini-style Trolltech.conf.
>
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