That was quick. :-)
On Sep 30, 2011 5:40 PM, "hannes.janet...@gmail.com" <
hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Benjamin Flanagin <bflana...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Stupid Question, but where can I find the xsettings module in svn ?
>>
>
> it's gone. moved to e17 :) options are under look->applications
>
>
>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:23 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com <
>> hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Wido <wido...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > First, I don't know how to code, so I can't send patches :( (sorry for
>>> that)
>>> >
>>> > Second, I like more QT (as in kde) apps, so I set GTK to mimic QT by
>>> using
>>> > oxygen-gtk theme or qtCurve theme.
>>> >
>>> > I think Hannes work is awesome, I'm just saying that lot of people
uses
>>> GTK
>>> > as well as QT apps, so why only support one type of toolkit?
>>> >
>>> > I know, I know, there are tons of different toolkits, but being GTK
and
>>> QT
>>> > the two most used, I think is not fair to just include one of them
'just
>>> > because I like it most'.
>>> >
>>> > I can understand if this is technically non-viable, I'm fine with
that.
>>> But
>>> > saying 'I don't know how it works and I don't care'.....sounds kind of
>>> > mediocre (sorry if it's sounds rude, that's not the point really)
>>> >
>>> > Am I wrong to think this way?
>>> >
>>>
>>> As far as i can see it's not possible for e to set kde themes in
>>> general in a sane way. with gtk you have a theme file that defines
>>> which engine is used + all engine options. so only theme name needs to
>>> be set. with qt you have to set a style engine that can store it's
>>> config somewhere unknown to qt/kde (bespin e.g.) + color scheme. so
>>> one would need to know for each engine where it stores its settings to
>>> write its config. furthermore there is no spec which says where qt/kde
>>> writes its config or which signal is used to tell app to update their
>>> config. Then i dont like the idea to write to qt config files spread
>>> all over the place, so i would suggest to ask Qt people to adopt
>>> xsettings spec :)
>>>
>>> http://www.redhat.com/archives/xdg-list/2001-March/msg00003.html
>>> http://standards.freedesktop.org/xsettings-spec/xsettings-spec-0.5.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Hannes
>>> >
>>> > And again, I'm not a coder, so I'm really sorry that I can't submit
>>> patches
>>> > to do so
>>> >
>>> > El 25 de septiembre de 2011 08:52, Thomas Gstädtner
>>> > <tho...@gstaedtner.net>escribió:
>>> >
>>> >> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:06, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com
>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 02:45:47 -0500 Jeff Hoogland
>>> <jeffhoogl...@linux.com>
>>> >> said:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > if E set this by DEFAULT (there is some qt gtk theme engine that
can
>>> use
>>> >> gtk
>>> >> > themes and theme engines mostly in qt), that'd be best, but i have
no
>>> >> idea how
>>> >> > qt/kde does this... so patches accepted.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Set your QT apps to use your current GTK then _ then this is
already
>>> >> done :)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Saturday, September 24, 2011, Carsten Haitzler <
>>> ras...@rasterman.com
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 00:26:08 +0200 "hannes.janet...@gmail.coms"
>>> >> >> > <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> said:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Wido <wido...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> >> >> >> > Sorry to be a jerk....but if it's going to be 'native'
support
>>> for
>>> >> GTK
>>> >> >> >> > themes, shouldn't also be the same level of support for QT?
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> do you know how to tell qt to use a specific theme or to list
>>> themes
>>> >> >> >> available to qt? It would be good if qt could use XSettings
spec.
>>> >> >> >> actually the property i set is Net/IconThemeName so it seems to
be
>>> >> >> >> intended to work cross toolkit. though this spec seems to be
only
>>> >> used
>>> >> >> >> by gtk.. I don't have a clue about how to do these things with
qt.
>>> >> >> >> patches welcome :)
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > as jeff said - patches welcome. xsettings is something gtk/gnome
>>> uses
>>> >> and
>>> >> >> > supports, and jeff did the footwork of implementing. now it's
just
>>> a
>>> >> >> matter of
>>> >> >> > glueing it into all the right spots and adding a few more config
>>> vars
>>> >> and
>>> >> >> maybe
>>> >> >> > a few widgets in the config dialogs to swizzle them.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > if there are qt/kde mechamisms... please send the code! :)
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > I mean, not everybody is a GTK fanboy =)
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > El 24 de septiembre de 2011 02:41, Carsten Haitzler
>>> >> >> >> > <ras...@rasterman.com>escribió:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 05:37:07 +0200 "
hannes.janet...@gmail.com"
>>> >> >> >> >> <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> said:
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Carsten Haitzler <
>>> >> >> ras...@rasterman.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> > > On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 04:37:05 +0200 "
>>> hannes.janet...@gmail.com
>>> >> "
>>> >> >> >> >> > > <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> said:
>>> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> > >> Hey,
>>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>>> >> >> >> >> > >> I've added xsettings-module to e-modules-extra. it's
>>> pretty
>>> >> much
>>> >> >> proto
>>> >> >> >> >> > >> but it does what I mostly wanted it for:
>>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>>> >> >> >> >> > >> - set global icon theme to match the one selected in
e17.
>>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>>> >> >> >> >> > >> - adding 'data { "gtk-theme" "theme_name"; }' to e17
>>> themes
>>> >> >> allows to
>>> >> >> >> >> > >> automatically use a gtk theme matching e17 theme.
>>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>>> >> >> >> >> > >> in config dialog one can override these options to set
>>> themes
>>> >> >> >> >> explicitly.
>>> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> > > dude - this shouldn't be in modules-extra... it should
be
>>> in
>>> >> core
>>> >> >> e! :)
>>> >> >> >> >> many
>>> >> >> >> >> > > years ago i poked around the xsettings thing mentally
>>> deciding
>>> >> we
>>> >> >> had
>>> >> >> >> >> to add
>>> >> >> >> >> > > this to e, but i just never got to it.
>>> >> >> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > yes, i would also like it to be in core when it becomes
more
>>> >> mature.
>>> >> >> >> >> > should it go into conf_theme then?
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> well the xsettings core support should not even be a module
>>> >> >> >> >> just in e's main code. configuration - eg to provide a gtk
>>> theme,
>>> >> >> shoudl go
>>> >> >> >> >> into conf_theme. the others (icon theme) are already there -
>>> just
>>> >> >> recycle
>>> >> >> >> >> e's
>>> >> >> >> >> config. i'd say the conf_theme should provide a dialog to
>>> select
>>> >> gtk
>>> >> >> theme
>>> >> >> >> >> (from installed themes on system) in a list. that's it. with
>>> one
>>> >> >> option
>>> >> >> >> >> added
>>> >> >> >> >> to the list "let enlightenment theme decide". from memory
>>> >> xsettings
>>> >> >> can set
>>> >> >> >> >> up
>>> >> >> >> >> fonts, dpi and other things too. probably something to add
to
>>> the
>>> >> conf
>>> >> >> >> >> scale
>>> >> >> >> >> dialog and to conf_fonts dialog in e etc.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> --
>>> >> >> >> >> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am"
>>> >> >> --------------
>>> >> >> >> >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > --
>>> >> >> >> > Wido
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>>
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>>> >> >> >> > All of the data generated in--
>>> >> >> > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am"
>>> >> --------------
>>> >> >> > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>>
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>>> >> >> > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously
>>> >> valuable.
>>> >> >> > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance,
>>> >> security
>>> >> >> > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data
and
>>> >> makes
>>> >> >> > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
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>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
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>>> >> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >> >> All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously
>>> >> valuable.
>>> >> >> Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance,
>>> >> security
>>> >> >> threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and
>>> makes
>>> >> >> sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
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>>> >> > --
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>>> --------------
>>> >> > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>>
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>>> >> > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously
>>> >> valuable.
>>> >> > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance,
>>> security
>>> >> > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and
>>> makes
>>> >> > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>>> >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2
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>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Setting Qt to use the Gtkstyle engine is easy: just set "style=GTK+"
>>> >> in ~/.config/Trolltech.conf
>>> >> However, doing this properly means you have to check for available
>>> >> engines, parsing the config, making sure there is a config and
>>> >> probably check for a dozend race conditions.
>>> >>
>>> >> As qt ships with qtconfig which does the job already, I don't see why
>>> >> to include that.
>>> >> Also, there is not really such a thing as Qt themes (there are a
>>> >> number of styles, but I don't think anyone has ever written an
>>> >> additional one outside of Trolltech), if anything there are KDE
themes
>>> >> for Qt.
>>> >>
>>> >> Adding a link to qtconfig in the menu should be more than enough. At
>>> >> most, adding a button "Use GTK theme for Qt" could be done, which
sets
>>> >> "style=GTK+" in the ini-style Trolltech.conf.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
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>>> >> All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously
>>> valuable.
>>> >> Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance,
>>> security
>>> >> threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and
makes
>>> >> sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>>> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Wido
>>> >
>>>
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>>> > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously
>>> valuable.
>>> > Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance,
security
>>> > threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and
makes
>>> > sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2
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>>>
>>>
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valuable.
>>> Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance,
security
>>> threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
>>> sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2
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valuable.
>> Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security
>> threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
>> sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2
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> threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
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