On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:27:27 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:16:38 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> > said: > > he's complaining about lack of features in e17 vs e16... and the comp > dialog hasnt split advanced vs basic - its all advanced. all options > there. The composite settings dialog is just one of the things he brought up in this thread, but I don't think there was one in e16, so E16 is irrelevant to this part of the conversation. It's not advanced, it's so far past advanced it's silly. That's my point. Even advanced users can't use it. > > I'll jump into this thread now, but cut out all the verbiage, just > > want to make a simple point. Wanderer is correct about how hard the > > composite settings are to use. I've been an e17 and EFL developer > > for many years, and I have no clue what almost all of the stuff in > > that settings dialog does. Shadows and maybe smooth scaling is > > about all the average user will make sense of, the rest is entirely > > meaningless, even to experienced developers like me. > > > > It's easy for raster to say "just try them", but there's six panes > > with 22 controls, not counting the first panes sub pane. That sub > > pane has five panes itself, each with a list, and all but one with > > five buttons. I wont go into all the panes with controls when you > > hit one of the edit/add buttons. That's one scary big lot of > > options (tens of millions of combinations, not counting sliders, > > the sub pane, and the edit options), 99% of which are completely > > meaningless to your average user. 98% are completely meaningless to > > your average E17 developer. Most people will open that up, say WTF, > > then close it and think it's all too hard. Exactly what Wanderer > > did, and he seems to be a more advanced user. > > > > No one can even tell which particular small number of things they > > should "just try". Nothing about that settings dialog is easy, > > except to raster. Well, OK, "Shadows" is easy, the rest is scary > > complicated. > > > > -- > > A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants > > coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. > > Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the > > latest in malware threats. > > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users > > mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
