On Thursday January 3 2013 07:07:14 David Seikel escribió: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 20:48:40 -0300 Wido <wido...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'll speak for myself. I don't like pulse, really. I don't. > > > > Having an audio layer over an audio layer, to me, sucks. And I don't > > see any advantages on having it (well, maybe is simpler to configure, > > I may give you that) > > > > My system has an onboard ATI chipset for audio and video (has HDMI), > > and a discrete NVidia 550 (also has hdmi). I'm using 2 monitors, one > > with DVI and the other with DVI->VGA. I'm using the onboard sound > > card (has 6 plugs). And i DON'T have anything related to pulse > > installed. > > > > In my experience, it is possible to have everything 'just working'. I > > reinstalled debian wheezy 2 weeks ago, I did not configure alsa and > > it just works. E has a mixer module, it recognises both sound cars > > (right click on gadget -> preferences) and you may select which > > channel to default. To me, it was easy to configure it fisrt with > > 'alsamixer', but then E took that configuration and 'just work'. No > > pulse audio, no middle layers, E to ALSA. > > > > My 2 cents =) > > > > > > PS: from time to time, I use jackd for more serious things, and > > everything keeps working (when apps like chrome or firefox are not > > locking on alsa) > > And there you have stumbled upon one of the other reasons things like > pulse audio exist - no locking, they learn to share. Just saying. B-)
I never really trusted pulse. But I would like to know if someone could run this experiment: Pulse and jackd at the same time.....do they lock or no? Pulse is a layer on top of alsa (as far as I can remember) and jack uses alsa drivers as well to talk with hardware. I want to be wrong, but my guess is that soone or later one is going to get blocked (like plain alsa with jack do). > > In my experience, pulse audio also "just works", with the definition of > "just works" varying to the same degree as yours did. In other words, > works fine and the problems (which all Linux audio systems have) just > get swept under the carpet coz they don't annoy me too much, and I can > keep claiming "just works" until the cows come home. They all suck, Granted. They all do > you just get to pick which problems you get to pretend don't exist. If > there was one that did not suck, then we would all be using it, and no > one would be saying "audio system XYZ sucks". I think there are things from pulse that are usefull (lke been able to stream it as any daemon). However, having yet another layer is annoying. And alsa SHOULD have a simpler way to configure it, without leaving the black magic begind (I like qjackdctk tool for configuring jack. Point and click and black magic and all) > > > On Wednesday January 2 2013 07:12:48 Barton escribió: > > > On 01/01/2013 11:09 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > > On Tue, 01 Jan 2013 23:02:00 -0800 Barton > > > > <bar...@bcdesignswell.com> said: > > > > > > > >> Hello all, > > > >> Great work on the 0.17 Release! > > > >> My setup: > > > >> e17 from the Arch Linux repo = enlightenment17 0.17.0-1 > > > >> with the standard theme. > > > >> > > > >> I managed to get sound output from VLC and XBMC over HDMI. > > > >> On my desktop, however, the Mixer control recognizes my GeForce > > > >> 210 card as HDA NVidia but doesn't populate the controls. I > > > >> suspect this is why Firefox (for example) can't connect to the > > > >> sound driver. > > > >> > > > >> Is there any hope that this is being worked on? > > > > > > > > most of us just use pulseaudio - most, not all, so e's mixer > > > > controls pulse and thus its a pulse problem (sure controls to > > > > tell pulse where to direct audio would be nice) :) > > > > > > > > > > (my apologies for top posting earlier) > > > Just thought I'd update you all and edit the subject line: > > > Test on Firefox playing a YouTube video fail so I guessed that it > > > was an x86_64 issue and installed all the pulse related lib32 stuff > > > - now all test succeed. > > > Thanks again, > > > Barton > > > > Wido > > Wido ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Master HTML5, CSS3, ASP.NET, MVC, AJAX, Knockout.js, Web API and much more. Get web development skills now with LearnDevNow - 350+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122812 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
