On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30/03/2013 13:17, Cedric BAIL wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> On 30/03/2013 03:52, Cedric BAIL wrote:
>>>>    I do believe that Enlightenment is driven by choosing the best
>>>> possible technical solution to provide the best possible experience on
>>>> your hardware. Not by religious belief and I am not going to limit the
>>>> capability of Enlightenment for those silly belief, but you can limit
>>>> yourself if you want.
>>>
>>> Dude,
>>>
>>> Sit back and re-read what you wrote tomorrow after a night's sleep.
>>>
>>> Your attitude here sucks. You have no idea what I use instead of systemd
>>> so calling what I have silly and other Ad-Hominem references is just
>>> plain dumb.
>>
>> Then read back your mail. You seems to have forgotten what you wrote.
>> Maybe you are the only one allowed to use that kind of language...
>> Sorry I didn't get the memo.
>>
>>> e17 has a long history of supporting whatever is out there and not
>>> making it an issue. This is why e17 runs on tiny mobile platforms all
>>> the way up to the very latest workstations.
>>>
>>> systemd is largely unproven out there in the wild.
>>
>> Same apply to all new technology. Let's go back to use papyrus and slave.
>>
>>> I recommend you crank your replies back a bit and stop insulting your
>>> users. Use the last 11 years as your model in how to proceed.
>>
>> You should start applying to yourself this nice recommendation.
>
> Let me quote the entire mail exchange:
>
> ====start
>
>  >> Guys, will the rest of us who are not using RHL clusters, or distros
> that
>>> are
>>> adopting wholesale systemd and udev, end up being locked out of the
> party?
>>
>>
>> unfortunately no, but they should
>
> I hope that's a joke.
>
> I do not use systemd and have no interest in doing so.
>
> May I point out that e17 is a window manager/desktop shell, not
> something else? I don't like it when WM authors do silly things like try
> to dictate what basic system software I should use. Just sayin'
>
> === end
>
>>> is from Mick
>> is from Gustavo
> no leading character is me.
>
> Now, WM authors dictating basic system software is silly, it's out of
> scope, and has no real technical basis. It's silly in the same way that
> coding a scheme where Gnome is a requirement for e17 is silly. Makes no
> sense. You might not like it but it's still nonetheless true.

You seem to love using silly a lot... And you are technically wrong,
it makes sense.

> YOU replied with this:
>
> "I have no
> interest into copying the feature and redeveloping them just for the
> sake of not relying on some piece of software that your religion
> forbid you to use."
>
> and this:
>
> "But because silly distribution do exist, we will
> continue to provide a working solution for them."
>
> You don't know what code I run, or what distribution I use, or why. So
> stop insulting me about my decisions when you do not know what they are.

Yeah, when you stop insulting the developers of this project I may
start to care about your case more than that.

> You seem to have taken my warranted use of the word silly as an excuse
> to dump in public. Then, and only then, I called you out on how your
> response sucked. Still wanna take these flames further?

You seems to like it so much, I really don't want to stop you into
your 5 min argument.

> How about instead you reword your announcement, laying out the reasons
> why you support systemd in the way you do and how this affects users who
> do not use systemd.

You seems so eager to learn that I can't help you enought, but only
point you to use google.com to start asking all the questions you have
to it. He may answer more kindly to the use of silly in every sentence
and I am sure he wont think that apply to it or you. If you can't
figure it out, you can just reread the announcement and the rest of
this thread. I am sure there is already enough information to fill
your huge need to learn.

If you have any real questions, maybe you could start using another
kind of language to get proper answer from the silly developer of this
WM... There is a difference between jokes and insulting people. You
did pass that boundary first in my opinion that is why I am answering
like this if you can't figure it out by yourself.
--
Cedric BAIL

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