On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:21:04 +0000 Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> said:

> On 11/26/2014 12:12 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 00:02:02 +0000 Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> said:
> > 
> >> On 11/24/2014 11:11 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> [...]
> >>> did you look at input -> mouse ... there is size there.
> >>
> >> That's where it fails (ie has zero effect).
> > 
> > works here. e's cursor changes size.
> 
> The problem must be with my laptop screen driver or something
> non-e-related, in that case. No matter what I change, the mouse pointer
> and cursor remain the same...except when the pointer moves into the
> grab-zone at the edge of windows: then it momentarily changes to the
> size I asked for. Everywhere else, it's the default size for the theme.

if everywhere else you mean over applications - they set their own cursors. e
is not in charge of that. e's cursor is set on the root window and otherwise on
its own content (titlebar etc.). are you using the default theme or some other
theme? it coould be that your theme has changed just the standard normal e
cursor but not the resize/move etc. cursors and thus the ones it didnt change
work...

> > that's the point of the scale factor. you need everything 2x as big. scale
> > factor is 2. cursor gets 2x the size too (if marked to scale).
> 
> But that's my point. Let's say that 2x is the ideal size for my kind of
> work: windows that fit, menus etc that I can work with. All except the
> cursor/pointer, which is way too small for me to see properly. I don't
> want to use 3x or 4x: I just want to be able to enlarge the pointer size
> independently of the theme scale.

then you have a disagreement with the theme designer who designed everything to
go together. let's take your argument further.

scale 2x is fine for everything.. except checkboxes! i can't use them. let me
scale those separately. but no. not just checkboxes. i find the close button
too small - can i have just a separate scale for the close button? ... need i
go on. what you are saying is that unless we go and provide a special scaling
control for every single element of the screen, just in case you don't like the
size of that one special thing... "it's broken". sorry - i don't buy your
argument. this basically requires an insanely large set of special cased
scaling values to apply and the need to mark everything with a special scale
class. that's just nuts.

> >> I think the designer may have overlooked the fact that the visibility of 
> >> the cursor on a laptop screen is poor when the mouse is small, because 
> >> accelerated movement is not updated to the cursor during fast motion, so 
> >> it effectively disappears from the screen.
> > 
> > ? the cursor moves every single screen refresh. it doesnt go pause or drop
> > movement when it accelerates (acceleration is actually just multiplying the
> > delta x and y values by some number when they exceed some threshold).
> 
> That may be so, but when I want to find the cursor on the screen (having
> perhaps not used it for a while, eg write writing or editing in Emacs,
> where I tend to use keystrokes), I wiggle the mouse in the hope that my
> eyes will spot some movement. But it takes a while before I can see
> anything moving, the cursor/arrow is so small.
> 
> I suspect the problem is that theme designers are younger than I am, and
> have excellent eyesight :-) so they are unaware of the problem.

no - they just have better eyesight. not everyone magically becomes blind as a
bat when they get older. :) even then... you seem specifically immune to
detecting motion. regardless of clarity of eyesight, we are mentally attuned in
our visual system to detecting motion - to hunt and to detect danger. even if
it's small... it moves and thus is a warning.

to me it seems you need less of a large cursor and more of a "find my cursor"
feature. you are working around that by demanding a special huge cursor. huge
cursors have a big downside - they take up lots of screen space (cover things
up). you probably want something more like "hit a hotkey and some big animation
zooms in on where the cursor is now so you can't miss it".

> ///Peter
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