On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 16:02:49 +0000 Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> said:
> On 11/26/2014 10:59 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > if everywhere else you mean over applications - they set their own cursors. > > e is not in charge of that. e's cursor is set on the root window and > > otherwise on its own content (titlebar etc.). are you using the default > > theme or some other theme? it could be that your theme has changed just the > > standard normal e cursor but not the resize/move etc. cursors and thus the > > ones it didnt change work... > > It's the default theme. This is beginning to make sense. > > > then you have a disagreement with the theme designer who designed > > everything to go together. let's take your argument further. > > > > scale 2x is fine for everything.. except checkboxes! i can't use them. let > > me scale those separately. but no. not just checkboxes. i find the close > > button too small - can i have just a separate scale for the close > > button? ... need i go on. > > No, but the cursor is omnipresent and should supersede all > application-specific widgets like checkboxes. I understand what you are > saying, but I think there should be a way to override whatever object > sets the cursor size. I also find it hard to imagine that an application > developer would specify the size of the cursor used within her > application: surely it should just inherit its size from the surrounding > environment, as it does in lesser interfaces than e :-) see below. > > what you are saying is that unless we go and provide a special scaling > > control for every single element of the screen, just in case you don't like > > the size of that one special thing... "it's broken". sorry - i don't buy > > your argument. this basically requires an insanely large set of special > > cased scaling values to apply and the need to mark everything with a > > special scale class. that's just nuts. > > It certainly would be, but I am not arguing for that, just for the > primacy of the cursor to be inherited by applications, not set > indivually for each one. But that is obviously unattainable. literally - many applications set their own cursor. when they set it they are entirely in charge. often it's the toolkit itself that sets it, but it literally is independent. e's own cursor has nothing to do with these app/toolkit set cursors. they often use these x cursor themes that are fairly limited in what they can display inside a cursor. x cusror theme files are a separate beast to your gtk theme, qt theme or even e theme. e uses the same theme that runs everything else in e - same file, same mechanisms, etc. etc/ ... but e can't go change cursors that the client applications set on their own windows. it has no such control. such control doesn't exist in x11. e could try CREATE an x11 cursor theme, then go modify the gtk/qt theme info to tell these toolkits to use that theme - but no such codee exists in e, and to do it would be nigh impossible as e's theme and x11 cursor themes don't "match" in features or how they work at all. e's cursors are live objects like everything else. they animate based on abstract signals you send to them. x11 cursor are static (except for the ability to cycle N images in a loop). > > no - they just have better eyesight. not everyone magically becomes blind > > as a bat when they get older. :) even then... you seem specifically immune > > to detecting motion. regardless of clarity of eyesight, we are mentally > > attuned in our visual system to detecting motion - to hunt and to detect > > danger. even if it's small... it moves and thus is a warning. > > It certainly is. > > > to me it seems you need less of a large cursor and more of a "find my > > cursor" feature. > > Which exists in many systems, including Ubuntu (which is what underlies > my e); pressing the Ctrl key alone used to flash the cursor location. > But that has now been removed for unfathomable reasons, which is why I > am seeking an alternative. not removed. you are using e - it just isn't there to begin with. -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
