On 18/06/2019 08:29, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 22:27:46 +0100 Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> said:
[...]
>> Thank you. Unfortunately that doesn't cover my immediate problem, which
>> is that my new machine has a very high-resolution screen, so normal
>> application windows are microscopically tiny, even with the e scale set
>> to 2.2. It would need to be about 5 to work properly.
>>
>> Setting the default fonts has no effect: the window furniture components
>> of (eg Thunderbird, Chromium, Emacs etc) are unreadably small and resist
>> all attempts to invoke larger fonts.
>>
>> The application *body fonts* can be set within each app OK (eg Tbird's
>> message window, Chromium's document body, and Emacs' buffers) — it's the
>> menus (and in Tbird's case, folder and message nav panes) which remain
>> small.
> 
> enlightenment doesn't address other toolkits or how they want to scale. it 
> sets
> its own scaling and this also affects efl apps that use elementary. the rest 
> is
> an issue for gtk, qt, and chrome itself, libreoffice, firefox etc. - apps that
> do their own toolkits. we have no code to go swizzling these other toolkits or
> apps etc.

Right. But something in E must be preventing these applications from
using the font sizes I have set in them.  I changed their settings while
using them under E, and they had no effect (that in itself is wrong), so
when I logged out and logged into a Cinnamon job, I get this:

http://silmaril.ie/screenshots/emptyscreen-cinnamon.png
http://silmaril.ie/screenshots/chromium-cinnamon.png
http://silmaril.ie/screenshots/thunderbird-cinnamon.png

So they *have* taken effect, but when I log out and back into E, the
settings are not in effect. Something is preventing the apps from using
the settings:

http://silmaril.ie/screenshots/enlightenment.png

> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI

It says Cinnamon supports hi-res laptop screens, which it does, and it
also works with the apps run within it.

It says in E to use Look > Scaling, which I have tried, but that of
course only affects the E interface itself, not any apps. It also works
backwards, so for the very hi-res screen I have had to set "Scale
relative to screen DPI" to a base value of 48dpi in order to make things
readable.

> look at the toolkits section, browsers etc. 

No, there is no point in you wasting your valuable time messing with
other people's settings. Unfortunately this makes E completely unusable
on very high resolution screens for normal everyday work in third-party
applications.

Peter


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