On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:19:52 +0100 Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> said:

> On 18/06/2019 08:29, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 22:27:46 +0100 Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> said:
> [...]
> >> Thank you. Unfortunately that doesn't cover my immediate problem, which
> >> is that my new machine has a very high-resolution screen, so normal
> >> application windows are microscopically tiny, even with the e scale set
> >> to 2.2. It would need to be about 5 to work properly.
> >>
> >> Setting the default fonts has no effect: the window furniture components
> >> of (eg Thunderbird, Chromium, Emacs etc) are unreadably small and resist
> >> all attempts to invoke larger fonts.
> >>
> >> The application *body fonts* can be set within each app OK (eg Tbird's
> >> message window, Chromium's document body, and Emacs' buffers) — it's the
> >> menus (and in Tbird's case, folder and message nav panes) which remain
> >> small.
> > 
> > enlightenment doesn't address other toolkits or how they want to scale. it
> > sets its own scaling and this also affects efl apps that use elementary.
> > the rest is an issue for gtk, qt, and chrome itself, libreoffice, firefox
> > etc. - apps that do their own toolkits. we have no code to go swizzling
> > these other toolkits or apps etc.
> 
> Right. But something in E must be preventing these applications from
> using the font sizes I have set in them.  I changed their settings while
> using them under E, and they had no effect (that in itself is wrong), so
> when I logged out and logged into a Cinnamon job, I get this:

E doesn't do anything really - though it can run a settings daemon - "enable
application x settings" under application theme settings... we don't really pay
much attention to that atm.

> http://silmaril.ie/screenshots/emptyscreen-cinnamon.png
> http://silmaril.ie/screenshots/chromium-cinnamon.png
> http://silmaril.ie/screenshots/thunderbird-cinnamon.png
> 
> So they *have* taken effect, but when I log out and back into E, the
> settings are not in effect. Something is preventing the apps from using
> the settings:
> 
> http://silmaril.ie/screenshots/enlightenment.png
> 
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI
> 
> It says Cinnamon supports hi-res laptop screens, which it does, and it
> also works with the apps run within it.
> 
> It says in E to use Look > Scaling, which I have tried, but that of
> course only affects the E interface itself, not any apps. It also works
> backwards, so for the very hi-res screen I have had to set "Scale
> relative to screen DPI" to a base value of 48dpi in order to make things
> readable.
> 
> > look at the toolkits section, browsers etc. 
> 
> No, there is no point in you wasting your valuable time messing with
> other people's settings. Unfortunately this makes E completely unusable
> on very high resolution screens for normal everyday work in third-party
> applications.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
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