Nah On Tue, 7 Sep 2021, 09:25 Florian Schaefer, <list...@netego.de> wrote:
> It seems I was once again celebrating to early... > > > Not trying to pretend that I actually understand the logic behind the > changed line > > if ((n) && (*n) && (*n + 1)) eina_strbuf_append(buf, " "); > > it more importantly still leads to buffer overflows. > > > https://pastebin.com/gf6AppF1 > > > Am I lately the harbinger of bad news? ;) > > > Cheers, > > Florian > > > "Florian Schaefer" list...@netego.de – September 7, 2021 4:23 PM > > Excellent. Many thanks. :) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Florian > > > > "Al Poole" nets...@gmail.com – September 7, 2021 4:18 PM > > > Pushed. > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 8:11 AM Al Poole <nets...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Florian, I didn't backport this to procstats...should have a > fix... > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 12:46 AM Florian Schaefer <list...@netego.de> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> I think we've got a second, independent issue with procstat here. > This > > > >> time it seems to me your friendly string-buffer overflow. > Incidentally > > > >> triggered by a long command line in terminology while compiling the > latest > > > >> enlightenment. ;) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> pastebin.com/Ue03AbmB > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Cheers, > > > >> > > > >> Florian > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> "Al Poole" nets...@gmail.com – September 6, 2021 1:22 AM > > > >> > Summoned > > > >> > > > > >> > On Sun, 5 Sep 2021, 14:12 Carsten Haitzler, <ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 11:25:35 +0900 Florian Schaefer < > list...@netego.de > > > >> > > > > >> > > said: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > OK, the ibox patch seemed to resolve this issue. > > > >> > > > Thank you very much! :-) > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > But. As you proposed I started to play with ASAN ... and > opened > > > >> quite a > > > >> > > > can of worms apparently. E is now rather constantly crashing. > I > > > >> guess > > > >> > > > this is because of the "abort_on_error=1" setting of ASAN and > it's, > > > >> > > > well, finding many memory leaks. So I hope we can squash them > one > > > >> by one. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > export > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > ASAN_OPTIONS="detect_odr_violation=0:detect_leaks=0:abort_on_error=1:new_delete_type_mismatch=0" > > > >> > > > > > >> > > :) it will only barf on real memory erros - not smaller things > that > > > >> don't > > > >> > > cause > > > >> > > crashes. for leaks i'm more interested in using massif for > that, but > > > >> they > > > >> > > wont > > > >> > > cause crashes so those are "worry about another day" if > anything. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > First I want to say that I needed to add "log_path=asan.log" > to the > > > >> > > > ASAN_OPTIONS variable in order to have the asan output > actually > > > >> written > > > >> > > > somewhere, so I would propose to add this information to the > > > >> > > > enlightenment homepage. Most users nowadys probably don't > start E > > > >> from a > > > >> > > > terminal where any stdout would be visible. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > actually i just redirect ALL stdout/err from e to > ~/.xsession-errors > > > >> so > > > >> > > that > > > >> > > handles it anyway :) you won't need to do the above special > asan log > > > >> if > > > >> > > you're > > > >> > > dloing that and i'd generally say it's a smart move. if you > don't you > > > >> can > > > >> > > also > > > >> > > check your journald logs from systemd etc. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > So I tried to capture one of the crashes as best as I could > with > > > >> both > > > >> > > > gdb and asan. This one seemed to be in the procstats module. > The > > > >> result > > > >> > > > is here: pastebin.com/M6V2QTwd > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ooh procstats... i do not run that, so that probably explains > why i > > > >> don't > > > >> > > see > > > >> > > this... > > > >> > > > > > >> > > /me summons a netstar > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Also, now E brings an additional error popup when returning > from the > > > >> > > > lock screen: "Authentication via PAM had errors setting up the > > > >> > > > authentication session. The error code was 6." This did not > happen > > > >> > > > before the recompiling. So I was suspecting that this is > somehow > > > >> due to > > > >> > > > ASAN so I tried to remove the ASAN_OPTIONS from the > .xsessionrc. > > > >> But it > > > >> > > > seems that without this variable E won't even start now. I > see the > > > >> > > > processes in the process list but the screen remains just > black. > > > >> > > > Therefore back to ASAN it is. Also I could not find any > related > > > >> messages > > > >> > > > in auth.log or similar. Very strange and somewhat unsettling. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > aaaah yes. i think error code is changing because asan detects > > > >> something > > > >> > > e.g. > > > >> > > like a leak on shutdown of the ckpasswd slave binary thus > making this > > > >> not > > > >> > > work. > > > >> > > basically "don't rely on desklock to work right" if using asan. > kind > > > >> of a > > > >> > > "gotcha". > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Concerning the ACPI daemon. I see, this seems to be a "hard" > > > >> requirement > > > >> > > > of E then. Interesting design choice. For me personally > running an > > > >> ACPI > > > >> > > > > > >> > > It's a soft requirement. E works without BUT you will be missing > > > >> events for > > > >> > > things like: lid open/close, some power/reset buttons being > pressed, > > > >> ac > > > >> > > adaptor > > > >> > > plug/unplug ... e will check if your system has acpi at all - > if it > > > >> does it > > > >> > > will want events from acpid to handle these. it may be you are > lucky > > > >> and > > > >> > > don't > > > >> > > need these (eg only have a power button - you already getkey > press > > > >> for it > > > >> > > and > > > >> > > no reset button, no lid, no ac adapter/battery), but e will > basically > > > >> > > insist > > > >> > > this runs because you have these as possible events. it's a > trivially > > > >> small > > > >> > > daemon to run and every distro i know of has it, so not much to > just > > > >> go do > > > >> > > this. i added this because people complained e didn't suspend > their > > > >> laptop > > > >> > > on > > > >> > > lid close and it ended up they didn't follow the recommendation > of > > > >> having > > > >> > > acpid > > > >> > > to handle that. this is there because people don't follow docs > so now > > > >> it's > > > >> > > pushing it on everyone to avoid things like a laptop in your > backpack > > > >> > > running > > > >> > > and overheating and running your entire battery empty in a few > hours. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > daemon on a desktop system has exactly zero additional > benefit. The > > > >> > > > power button is handled by systemd just fine and I am happy > for > > > >> every > > > >> > > > > > >> > > actually it's not. e inhibits systemd handling this - always. no > > > >> choice. > > > >> > > when e > > > >> > > runs system will ignore this. e is handling it. it can handle it > > > >> either > > > >> > > via a > > > >> > > x11 power key press event OR an acpi button press. see above. :) > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > unnecessary daemon that I can prevent from cluttering my ps > output. > > > >> So, > > > >> > > > anyway, for now I just commented out the callback to the > popup. > > > >> Works > > > >> > > > great. ;-) > > > >> > > > > > >> > > see above. too many times people don't follow the > recommendations, so > > > >> now > > > >> > > forcing it on everyone. i have considered adding acpi support to > > > >> > > enlightenment_system that runs as root, but i haven't done that > so > > > >> until > > > >> > > then ... you need acpid. :) > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Cheers > > > >> > > > Florian > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > On 9/5/21 6:27 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > >> > > > > On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 17:52:09 +0900 Florian Schaefer < > > > >> list...@netego.de> > > > >> > > said: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> On 9/4/21 4:55 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 11:47:20 +0900 Florian Schaefer < > > > >> > > list...@netego.de> > > > >> > > > >>> said: > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>>> Raster, > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> Thanks for the quick reply and help! > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> OK, so ibox seems to be the culprit. With the module > unloaded > > > >> I was > > > >> > > not > > > >> > > > >>>> able to crash the system. That's quite interesting, on my > > > >> personal > > > >> > > > >>>> machine I am using ibox ever since and never had any > issues > > > >> (just > > > >> > > like > > > >> > > > >>>> your test yesterday). So this seems to be somehow > specific to > > > >> my new > > > >> > > > >>>> system here. > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> Anyway, thanks for pointing me into the right direction. > With > > > >> this > > > >> > > I now > > > >> > > > >>>> also finally understood how to identify which one of the > many > > > >> > > threads > > > >> > > > >>>> was the segfaulting one. ;-) > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> Now for the backtrace. As it is quite short I will paste > it > > > >> below > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> ======================================== > > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) bt > > > >> > > > >>>> #0 0x00007f23b417f872 in __libc_pause () at > > > >> > > > >>>> ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pause.c:29 > > > >> > > > >>>> #1 0x0000564440d159f7 in e_alert_show () at > > > >> ../src/bin/e_alert.c:43 > > > >> > > > >>>> #2 0x0000564440cda47a in _e_crash () at > > > >> ../src/bin/e_signals.c:81 > > > >> > > > >>>> #3 0x0000564440cda4a9 in e_sigseg_act (x=<optimized out>, > > > >> > > > >>>> info=<optimized out>, data=<optimized out>) at > > > >> > > ../src/bin/e_signals.c:91 > > > >> > > > >>>> #4 0x00007f23b4180140 in <signal handler called> () at > > > >> > > > >>>> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 > > > >> > > > >>>> #5 0x00007f23a57df211 in _ibox_icon_fill > (ic=0x5644419a2910) at > > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/modules/ibox/e_mod_main.c:636 > > > >> > > > >>>> #6 0x00007f23a57df330 in _ibox_cb_icon_fill_timer > > > >> (data=<optimized > > > >> > > > >>>> out>) at ../src/modules/ibox/e_mod_main.c:526 > > > >> > > > >>>> #7 0x00007f23b4c25581 in _ecore_call_task_cb > (data=<optimized > > > >> out>, > > > >> > > > >>>> func=<optimized out>) at > ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_private.h:456 > > > >> > > > >>>> #8 _ecore_timer_legacy_tick (data=0x564441cbf230, > > > >> > > event=0x7ffd43c61150) > > > >> > > > >>>> at ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_timer.c:172 > > > >> > > > >>>> #9 0x00007f23b3b1c130 in _event_callback_call > > > >> > > (obj_id=0x400000379067, > > > >> > > > >>>> pd=0x5644412371e0, desc=0x7f23b4c521e0 > > > >> > > > >>>> <_EFL_LOOP_TIMER_EVENT_TIMER_TICK>, > event_info=<optimized out>, > > > >> > > > >>>> legacy_compare=legacy_compare@entry=0 '\000') at > > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/lib/eo/eo_base_class.c:2114 > > > >> > > > >>>> #10 0x00007f23b3b1c3ec in _efl_object_event_callback_call > > > >> > > > >>>> (obj_id=<optimized out>, pd=<optimized out>, > desc=<optimized > > > >> out>, > > > >> > > > >>>> event_info=<optimized out>) at > > > >> ../src/lib/eo/eo_base_class.c:2186 > > > >> > > > >>>> #11 0x00007f23b3b16620 in efl_event_callback_call > > > >> (obj=<optimized > > > >> > > out>, > > > >> > > > >>>> desc=desc@entry=0x7f23b4c521e0 > > > >> <_EFL_LOOP_TIMER_EVENT_TIMER_TICK>, > > > >> > > > >>>> event_info=event_info@entry=0x0) at > > > >> > > ../src/lib/eo/eo_base_class.c:2189 > > > >> > > > >>>> #12 0x00007f23b4c26e15 in _efl_loop_timer_expired_call > > > >> > > > >>>> (obj=obj@entry=0x40000000012d, pd=pd@entry > =0x5644411fd460, > > > >> > > > >>>> when=when@entry=436613.23437423998) at > > > >> > > ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_timer.c:669 > > > >> > > > >>>> #13 0x00007f23b4c26f43 in > _efl_loop_timer_expired_timers_call > > > >> > > > >>>> (obj=obj@entry=0x40000000012d, pd=pd@entry > =0x5644411fd460, > > > >> > > > >>>> when=436613.23437423998) at > ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_timer.c:621 > > > >> > > > >>>> #14 0x00007f23b4bf2fae in > _ecore_main_loop_iterate_internal > > > >> > > > >>>> (obj=obj@entry=0x40000000012d, pd=pd@entry > =0x5644411fd460, > > > >> > > > >>>> once_only=once_only@entry=0) at > > > >> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_main.c:2431 > > > >> > > > >>>> #15 0x00007f23b4bf383f in _ecore_main_loop_begin > > > >> > > > >>>> (obj=obj@entry=0x40000000012d, pd=pd@entry=0x5644411fd460) > at > > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_main.c:1231 > > > >> > > > >>>> #16 0x00007f23b4bf7e6d in _efl_loop_begin > (obj=0x40000000012d, > > > >> > > > >>>> pd=0x5644411fd460) at ../src/lib/ecore/efl_loop.c:57 > > > >> > > > >>>> #17 0x00007f23b4bf7233 in efl_loop_begin > (obj=0x40000000012d) > > > >> at > > > >> > > > >>>> src/lib/ecore/efl_loop.eo.c:28 > > > >> > > > >>>> #18 0x00007f23b4bf390c in ecore_main_loop_begin () at > > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_main.c:1316 > > > >> > > > >>>> #19 0x0000564440cb8c50 in main (argc=<optimized out>, > > > >> > > argv=<optimized > > > >> > > > >>>> out>) at ../src/bin/e_main.c:1121 > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) fr 5 > > > >> > > > >>>> #5 0x00007f23a57df211 in _ibox_icon_fill > (ic=0x5644419a2910) at > > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/modules/ibox/e_mod_main.c:636 > > > >> > > > >>>> 636 if ((ic->ibox->inst->ci->show_preview) && > > > >> > > > >>>> (edje_object_part_exists(ic->o_holder, > "e.swallow.preview"))) > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) list > > > >> > > > >>>> 631 } > > > >> > > > >>>> 632 > > > >> > > > >>>> 633 static void > > > >> > > > >>>> 634 _ibox_icon_fill(IBox_Icon *ic) > > > >> > > > >>>> 635 { > > > >> > > > >>>> 636 if ((ic->ibox->inst->ci->show_preview) && > > > >> > > > >>>> (edje_object_part_exists(ic->o_holder, > "e.swallow.preview"))) > > > >> > > > >>>> 637 _ibox_icon_fill_preview(ic, EINA_FALSE); > > > >> > > > >>>> 638 else > > > >> > > > >>>> 639 _ibox_icon_fill_icon(ic); > > > >> > > > >>>> 640 > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) print ic > > > >> > > > >>>> $1 = (IBox_Icon *) 0x5644419a2910 > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) print *ic > > > >> > > > >>>> $2 = {ibox = 0x564441cc3fe0, o_holder = 0x0, o_icon = > 0x0, > > > >> > > o_holder2 = > > > >> > > > >>>> 0x0, o_icon2 = 0x0, client = 0x0, drag = {start = 0 > '\000', > > > >> dnd = 0 > > > >> > > > >>>> '\000', x = 0, y = 0, dx = 0, dy = 128}} > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) print *(ic->ibox) > > > >> > > > >>>> $3 = {inst = 0x40, o_box = 0xe1, o_drop = 0x564441a499b0, > > > >> > > o_drop_over = > > > >> > > > >>>> 0x7f23b4165cb0 <main_arena+304>, o_empty = > 0x7474756200726162, > > > >> > > > >>>> ic_drop_before = 0x81646c3698761235, drop_before = > 1103904792, > > > >> > > icons = > > > >> > > > >>>> 0x0, zone = 0x698761254, dnd_x = 0, dnd_y = 1769170290} > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) print *(ic->ibox->inst) > > > >> > > > >>>> Cannot access memory at address 0x40 > > > >> > > > >>>> ======================================== > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> So somehow we've got some garbage pointer in > ic->ibox->inst. > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> actualluy.. ic->ibox is junk. iut happens to point to some > > > >> memory we > > > >> > > can > > > >> > > > >>> access but it's full of ... garbage. like dnd_y is and > > > >> unrealistic > > > >> > > coord. > > > >> > > > >>> zone does not look like a proper pointer (o_drop does) and > > > >> o_box is > > > >> > > > >>> nothing like what a pointer should look like. drop_before > seems > > > >> junky > > > >> > > > >>> too. so ... what happened to ic->ibox? or ... for that > matter > > > >> what > > > >> > > > >>> happened to ic? maybe ic has been freed and now the ibox > ptr > > > >> has been > > > >> > > > >>> overwritten to point to some junk as i cant imagine the > ibox > > > >> struct > > > >> > > being > > > >> > > > >>> freed as that struct is still there for the ibox gadget. > so ... > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Ah I see. It certainly makes debugging easier if you know > what a > > > >> > > pointer > > > >> > > > >> is supposed to look like. :-) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> well turning on ASAN (search enlightenment.org for asan > and > > > >> how to > > > >> > > enable > > > >> > > > >>> it) in efl and e would probably instantly point out the > > > >> problem. you > > > >> > > can > > > >> > > > >>> try that as an exercise in being able to divine better > debug > > > >> info > > > >> > > from > > > >> > > > >>> efl > > > >> > > > >>> + e. it's pretty easy now with meson.... :) unlike > valgrind > > > >> it's not > > > >> > > > >>> prohibitively slow either. it's usable day to day on a > fast > > > >> enough > > > >> > > > >>> machine. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Interesting. Thanks for the pointer to new debugging > tools. (And > > > >> yes, > > > >> > > > >> valgrind is really slow.) I found the documentation you > > > >> mentioned. I > > > >> > > > >> think I will give it a try before applying your patch, > just to > > > >> see > > > >> > > what > > > >> > > > >> happens and to be able to play around with it for a bit. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> and i can see the problem: > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> ecore_timer_add(0.1, _ibox_cb_icon_fill_timer, ic); > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> a timer is created to fill the icon in 0.1 sec... but ... > > > >> imagine > > > >> > > the icon > > > >> > > > >>> (ic) has been freed/deleted BEFORE the timer fires... in > 0.1sec > > > >> from > > > >> > > > >>> now. ... someone added a timer without remembering to > delete it > > > >> when > > > >> > > the > > > >> > > > >>> icon the timer is for is deleted! a bit sloppy... > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Bad boy. ;-) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> This means that on my old laptop I never ran into any > issues > > > >> because > > > >> > > it > > > >> > > > >> is just too slow for this race condition to occur? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> d12acf0d01e628d71548adbb77670c7e40aef043 commit in git > now fixes > > > >> > > that. > > > >> > > > >>> problem is in e ... not efl :) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Great. Thanks! As said before, I will try to tackle this > with > > > >> ASAN > > > >> > > first > > > >> > > > >> for training and then see how your solution is holding up. > That > > > >> will > > > >> > > > >> hopefully be tomorrow. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Now to the second point of my first mail from yesterday: Is > > > >> there any > > > >> > > > >> way for me to disable/silence the error popup on startup > that no > > > >> ACPI > > > >> > > > >> daemon is running? > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > oh yes. install acpid and have it run. :) > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Cheers, > > > >> > > > >> Florian > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>> I tried to poke into the preceding frames (#6 and #7) > but only > > > >> hit > > > >> > > > >>>> optimized out variables. This is efl territory, right? > This > > > >> morning > > > >> > > I > > > >> > > > >>>> recompiled enlightenment with "-O0 -g" but I guess I > should > > > >> also > > > >> > > have > > > >> > > > >>>> done the same to efl. Well, I can do this the next time > I'm in > > > >> > > office if > > > >> > > > >>>> helpful. > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> Any ideas? > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> For now I gave ibar a try. Not exactly a replacement for > me. I > > > >> don't > > > >> > > > >>>> need a launcher (using everything and favorites menu > instead) > > > >> or a > > > >> > > > >>>> tracker of running windows (I know what windows I have > open). > > > >> I only > > > >> > > > >>>> need something to show my minimized windows so that I > can open > > > >> them > > > >> > > > >>>> again (I know, they appear with Alt+Tab...) and this > seems to > > > >> be the > > > >> > > > >>>> only scenario that cannot be reproduced by ibar. -- I > guess I > > > >> never > > > >> > > > >>>> bought into the MacOS style launcher bar. ;-) > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>> ibar will show both running and minimized icons for > windows .. > > > >> but > > > >> > > ok - > > > >> > > > >>> yeah - it doesnt "show only minimized"... :) > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >>>> Cheers > > > >> > > > >>>> Florian > > > >> > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >>>> On 9/4/21 1:25 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > >> > > > >>>>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 21:04:35 +0900 Florian Schaefer < > > > >> > > list...@netego.de> > > > >> > > > >>>>> said: > > > >> > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>> quick - if you unload the ibox module ... does the > problem > > > >> stop? > > > >> > > that > > > >> > > > >>>>> crash is inside ibox code - memory it's accessing is > > > >> bad/wrong - > > > >> > > why i > > > >> > > > >>>>> don't know. not more information. like 363 in ibox is: > > > >> > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>> if ((ic->ibox->inst->ci->show_preview) && > > > >> > > > >>>>> (edje_object_part_exists(ic->o_holder, > "e.swallow.preview"))) > > > >> > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>> so what is ic? whats is ic->ibox, ic->ibox->inst, > > > >> > > ic->ibox->inst->ci ? > > > >> > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>> if you attach gdb when e crashes and dump these values > - i'd > > > >> know > > > >> > > more. > > > >> > > > >>>>> maybe. I actually stopped using ibox a while ago since > ibar > > > >> does > > > >> > > both > > > >> > > > >>>>> effectively these days. perhaps it is an ibox bug and i > havent > > > >> > > seen it > > > >> > > > >>>>> as i dont use it. so try the above, if it goes away - > attach > > > >> gdb > > > >> > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>> i can say that i dont see the problem here with ibox > enabled > > > >> and > > > >> > > on amd > > > >> > > > >>>>> + e (git). > > > >> > > > >>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Dear everyone, > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> so I got a new desktop PC at work and the first thing > I did, > > > >> of > > > >> > > course, > > > >> > > > >>>>>> was to install Debian sid and enlightenment-git. ;-) > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> The machine has a Nvidia T600 card and this is where > troubles > > > >> > > probably > > > >> > > > >>>>>> begin. As I kind of need the graphics performance for > CAD I > > > >> went > > > >> > > with > > > >> > > > >>>>>> the drivers from Nvidia (the stock open source drivers > were > > > >> > > terribly > > > >> > > > >>>>>> slow). > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Now what happens is that enlightenment crashes often. > Like > > > >> kind of > > > >> > > > >>>>>> constantly. I got the impression it happens mostly when > > > >> several > > > >> > > windows > > > >> > > > >>>>>> are going through their appearance fade-in transition > at the > > > >> same > > > >> > > time. > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Then the "red screen of death" appears and I need to > press > > > >> F1 to > > > >> > > > >>>>>> continue. With some applications this happens always > (Eagle > > > >> > > anyone?) > > > >> > > > >>>>>> with others only sometimes. After the forced restart > many > > > >> windows > > > >> > > (e.g. > > > >> > > > >>>>>> terminology always, firefox sometimes) need to be > minimized > > > >> and > > > >> > > > >>>>>> uncovered again for their content to display again. > Some > > > >> dialog > > > >> > > windows > > > >> > > > >>>>>> won't even show their content from the beginning and > instead > > > >> just > > > >> > > some > > > >> > > > >>>>>> different portion of the screen. Needless to say that > for a > > > >> > > machine at > > > >> > > > >>>>>> work this is not an optimal situation. > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> The most pressing issue are of course the crashes. I > > > >> recompiled > > > >> > > > >>>>>> everything with debugging symbols and optimization > disabled > > > >> (or at > > > >> > > > >>>>>> least I thought so, some things seem still to be > optimized > > > >> away) > > > >> > > to > > > >> > > > >>>>>> get some meaningful dumps. One of which I uploaded to > > > >> pastebin > > > >> > > > >>>>>> (pastebin.com/YWSarC10) hoping that it makes sense to > > > >> > > someone. > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> I am sure that it is not E that is "at fault" but > Nvidia, > > > >> but for > > > >> > > now I > > > >> > > > >>>>>> need to find a way around this so that I can work > without > > > >> having > > > >> > > to > > > >> > > > >>>>>> reset everything every five minutes. Any ideas? > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Oh, I also tried to disable OpenGL in the compositor > > > >> settings and > > > >> > > > >>>>>> choosing the software option. And it still crashes! > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> For starters I was hoping that I can just switch off > all the > > > >> > > window > > > >> > > > >>>>>> transition-fading eye-candy but I did not understand > whether > > > >> this > > > >> > > is > > > >> > > > >>>>>> possible. Is it? > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Finally, being a desktop system (my first in like 10 > years > > > >> or so) > > > >> > > it > > > >> > > > >>>>>> does not run an acpi daemon. I don't really see any > reason > > > >> to do > > > >> > > so. > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Therefore E also complains on every startup that no > acpi > > > >> daemon > > > >> > > can be > > > >> > > > >>>>>> found. I did not find any compile time or runtime > options to > > > >> > > disable > > > >> > > > >>>>>> acpi. Is there a way to silence this error/warning? > > > >> > > > >>>>>> > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Cheers, > > > >> > > > >>>>>> Florian > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users