Hey can you try this...


On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 9:30 AM Al Poole <nets...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nah
>
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2021, 09:25 Florian Schaefer, <list...@netego.de> wrote:
>
>> It seems I was once again celebrating to early...
>>
>>
>> Not trying to pretend that I actually understand the logic behind the
>> changed line
>>
>> if ((n) && (*n) && (*n + 1)) eina_strbuf_append(buf, " ");
>>
>> it more importantly still leads to buffer overflows.
>>
>>
>> https://pastebin.com/gf6AppF1
>>
>>
>> Am I lately the harbinger of bad news? ;)
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Florian
>>
>>
>> "Florian Schaefer" list...@netego.de – September 7, 2021 4:23 PM
>> > Excellent. Many thanks. :)
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Florian
>> >
>> > "Al Poole" nets...@gmail.com – September 7, 2021 4:18 PM
>> > > Pushed.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 8:11 AM Al Poole <nets...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Thanks Florian, I didn't backport this to procstats...should have a
>> fix...
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 12:46 AM Florian Schaefer <list...@netego.de
>> >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> I think we've got a second, independent issue with procstat here.
>> This
>> > > >> time it seems to me your friendly string-buffer overflow.
>> Incidentally
>> > > >> triggered by a long command line in terminology while compiling
>> the latest
>> > > >> enlightenment. ;)
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> pastebin.com/Ue03AbmB
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Cheers,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Florian
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> "Al Poole" nets...@gmail.com – September 6, 2021 1:22 AM
>> > > >> > Summoned
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Sun, 5 Sep 2021, 14:12 Carsten Haitzler, <
>> ras...@rasterman.com>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > > On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 11:25:35 +0900 Florian Schaefer <
>> list...@netego.de
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > > said:
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > OK, the ibox patch seemed to resolve this issue.
>> > > >> > > > Thank you very much! :-)
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > But. As you proposed I started to play with ASAN ... and
>> opened
>> > > >> quite a
>> > > >> > > > can of worms apparently. E is now rather constantly
>> crashing. I
>> > > >> guess
>> > > >> > > > this is because of the "abort_on_error=1" setting of ASAN
>> and it's,
>> > > >> > > > well, finding many memory leaks. So I hope we can squash
>> them one
>> > > >> by one.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > export
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >>
>> ASAN_OPTIONS="detect_odr_violation=0:detect_leaks=0:abort_on_error=1:new_delete_type_mismatch=0"
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > :) it will only barf on real memory erros - not smaller things
>> that
>> > > >> don't
>> > > >> > > cause
>> > > >> > > crashes. for leaks i'm more interested in using massif for
>> that, but
>> > > >> they
>> > > >> > > wont
>> > > >> > > cause crashes so those are "worry about another day" if
>> anything.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > First I want to say that I needed to add "log_path=asan.log"
>> to the
>> > > >> > > > ASAN_OPTIONS variable in order to have the asan output
>> actually
>> > > >> written
>> > > >> > > > somewhere, so I would propose to add this information to the
>> > > >> > > > enlightenment homepage. Most users nowadys probably don't
>> start E
>> > > >> from a
>> > > >> > > > terminal where any stdout would be visible.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > actually i just redirect ALL stdout/err from e to
>> ~/.xsession-errors
>> > > >> so
>> > > >> > > that
>> > > >> > > handles it anyway :) you won't need to do the above special
>> asan log
>> > > >> if
>> > > >> > > you're
>> > > >> > > dloing that and i'd generally say it's a smart move. if you
>> don't you
>> > > >> can
>> > > >> > > also
>> > > >> > > check your journald logs from systemd etc.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > So I tried to capture one of the crashes as best as I could
>> with
>> > > >> both
>> > > >> > > > gdb and asan. This one seemed to be in the procstats module.
>> The
>> > > >> result
>> > > >> > > > is here: pastebin.com/M6V2QTwd
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > ooh procstats... i do not run that, so that probably explains
>> why i
>> > > >> don't
>> > > >> > > see
>> > > >> > > this...
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > /me summons a netstar
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > Also, now E brings an additional error popup when returning
>> from the
>> > > >> > > > lock screen: "Authentication via PAM had errors setting up
>> the
>> > > >> > > > authentication session. The error code was 6." This did not
>> happen
>> > > >> > > > before the recompiling. So I was suspecting that this is
>> somehow
>> > > >> due to
>> > > >> > > > ASAN so I tried to remove the ASAN_OPTIONS from the
>> .xsessionrc.
>> > > >> But it
>> > > >> > > > seems that without this variable E won't even start now. I
>> see the
>> > > >> > > > processes in the process list but the screen remains just
>> black.
>> > > >> > > > Therefore back to ASAN it is. Also I could not find any
>> related
>> > > >> messages
>> > > >> > > > in auth.log or similar. Very strange and somewhat unsettling.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > aaaah yes. i think error code is changing because asan detects
>> > > >> something
>> > > >> > > e.g.
>> > > >> > > like a leak on shutdown of the ckpasswd slave binary thus
>> making this
>> > > >> not
>> > > >> > > work.
>> > > >> > > basically "don't rely on desklock to work right" if using
>> asan. kind
>> > > >> of a
>> > > >> > > "gotcha".
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > Concerning the ACPI daemon. I see, this seems to be a "hard"
>> > > >> requirement
>> > > >> > > > of E then. Interesting design choice. For me personally
>> running an
>> > > >> ACPI
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > It's a soft requirement. E works without BUT you will be
>> missing
>> > > >> events for
>> > > >> > > things like: lid open/close, some power/reset buttons being
>> pressed,
>> > > >> ac
>> > > >> > > adaptor
>> > > >> > > plug/unplug ... e will check if your system has acpi at all -
>> if it
>> > > >> does it
>> > > >> > > will want events from acpid to handle these. it may be you are
>> lucky
>> > > >> and
>> > > >> > > don't
>> > > >> > > need these (eg only have a power button - you already getkey
>> press
>> > > >> for it
>> > > >> > > and
>> > > >> > > no reset button, no lid, no ac adapter/battery), but e will
>> basically
>> > > >> > > insist
>> > > >> > > this runs because you have these as possible events. it's a
>> trivially
>> > > >> small
>> > > >> > > daemon to run and every distro i know of has it, so not much
>> to just
>> > > >> go do
>> > > >> > > this. i added this because people complained e didn't suspend
>> their
>> > > >> laptop
>> > > >> > > on
>> > > >> > > lid close and it ended up they didn't follow the
>> recommendation of
>> > > >> having
>> > > >> > > acpid
>> > > >> > > to handle that. this is there because people don't follow docs
>> so now
>> > > >> it's
>> > > >> > > pushing it on everyone to avoid things like a laptop in your
>> backpack
>> > > >> > > running
>> > > >> > > and overheating and running your entire battery empty in a few
>> hours.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > daemon on a desktop system has exactly zero additional
>> benefit. The
>> > > >> > > > power button is handled by systemd just fine and I am happy
>> for
>> > > >> every
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > actually it's not. e inhibits systemd handling this - always.
>> no
>> > > >> choice.
>> > > >> > > when e
>> > > >> > > runs system will ignore this. e is handling it. it can handle
>> it
>> > > >> either
>> > > >> > > via a
>> > > >> > > x11 power key press event OR an acpi button press. see above.
>> :)
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > unnecessary daemon that I can prevent from cluttering my ps
>> output.
>> > > >> So,
>> > > >> > > > anyway, for now I just commented out the callback to the
>> popup.
>> > > >> Works
>> > > >> > > > great. ;-)
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > see above. too many times people don't follow the
>> recommendations, so
>> > > >> now
>> > > >> > > forcing it on everyone. i have considered adding acpi support
>> to
>> > > >> > > enlightenment_system that runs as root, but i haven't done
>> that so
>> > > >> until
>> > > >> > > then ... you need acpid. :)
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > Cheers
>> > > >> > > > Florian
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > On 9/5/21 6:27 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 17:52:09 +0900 Florian Schaefer <
>> > > >> list...@netego.de>
>> > > >> > > said:
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >> On 9/4/21 4:55 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> > > >> > > > >>> On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 11:47:20 +0900 Florian Schaefer <
>> > > >> > > list...@netego.de>
>> > > >> > > > >>> said:
>> > > >> > > > >>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> Raster,
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> Thanks for the quick reply and help!
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> OK, so ibox seems to be the culprit. With the module
>> unloaded
>> > > >> I was
>> > > >> > > not
>> > > >> > > > >>>> able to crash the system. That's quite interesting, on
>> my
>> > > >> personal
>> > > >> > > > >>>> machine I am using ibox ever since and never had any
>> issues
>> > > >> (just
>> > > >> > > like
>> > > >> > > > >>>> your test yesterday). So this seems to be somehow
>> specific to
>> > > >> my new
>> > > >> > > > >>>> system here.
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> Anyway, thanks for pointing me into the right
>> direction. With
>> > > >> this
>> > > >> > > I now
>> > > >> > > > >>>> also finally understood how to identify which one of
>> the many
>> > > >> > > threads
>> > > >> > > > >>>> was the segfaulting one. ;-)
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> Now for the backtrace. As it is quite short I will
>> paste it
>> > > >> below
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> ========================================
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) bt
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #0 0x00007f23b417f872 in __libc_pause () at
>> > > >> > > > >>>> ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pause.c:29
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #1 0x0000564440d159f7 in e_alert_show () at
>> > > >> ../src/bin/e_alert.c:43
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #2 0x0000564440cda47a in _e_crash () at
>> > > >> ../src/bin/e_signals.c:81
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #3 0x0000564440cda4a9 in e_sigseg_act (x=<optimized
>> out>,
>> > > >> > > > >>>> info=<optimized out>, data=<optimized out>) at
>> > > >> > > ../src/bin/e_signals.c:91
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #4 0x00007f23b4180140 in <signal handler called> () at
>> > > >> > > > >>>> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #5 0x00007f23a57df211 in _ibox_icon_fill
>> (ic=0x5644419a2910) at
>> > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/modules/ibox/e_mod_main.c:636
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #6 0x00007f23a57df330 in _ibox_cb_icon_fill_timer
>> > > >> (data=<optimized
>> > > >> > > > >>>> out>) at ../src/modules/ibox/e_mod_main.c:526
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #7 0x00007f23b4c25581 in _ecore_call_task_cb
>> (data=<optimized
>> > > >> out>,
>> > > >> > > > >>>> func=<optimized out>) at
>> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_private.h:456
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #8 _ecore_timer_legacy_tick (data=0x564441cbf230,
>> > > >> > > event=0x7ffd43c61150)
>> > > >> > > > >>>> at ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_timer.c:172
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #9 0x00007f23b3b1c130 in _event_callback_call
>> > > >> > > (obj_id=0x400000379067,
>> > > >> > > > >>>> pd=0x5644412371e0, desc=0x7f23b4c521e0
>> > > >> > > > >>>> <_EFL_LOOP_TIMER_EVENT_TIMER_TICK>,
>> event_info=<optimized out>,
>> > > >> > > > >>>> legacy_compare=legacy_compare@entry=0 '\000') at
>> > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/lib/eo/eo_base_class.c:2114
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #10 0x00007f23b3b1c3ec in
>> _efl_object_event_callback_call
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (obj_id=<optimized out>, pd=<optimized out>,
>> desc=<optimized
>> > > >> out>,
>> > > >> > > > >>>> event_info=<optimized out>) at
>> > > >> ../src/lib/eo/eo_base_class.c:2186
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #11 0x00007f23b3b16620 in efl_event_callback_call
>> > > >> (obj=<optimized
>> > > >> > > out>,
>> > > >> > > > >>>> desc=desc@entry=0x7f23b4c521e0
>> > > >> <_EFL_LOOP_TIMER_EVENT_TIMER_TICK>,
>> > > >> > > > >>>> event_info=event_info@entry=0x0) at
>> > > >> > > ../src/lib/eo/eo_base_class.c:2189
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #12 0x00007f23b4c26e15 in _efl_loop_timer_expired_call
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (obj=obj@entry=0x40000000012d, pd=pd@entry
>> =0x5644411fd460,
>> > > >> > > > >>>> when=when@entry=436613.23437423998) at
>> > > >> > > ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_timer.c:669
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #13 0x00007f23b4c26f43 in
>> _efl_loop_timer_expired_timers_call
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (obj=obj@entry=0x40000000012d, pd=pd@entry
>> =0x5644411fd460,
>> > > >> > > > >>>> when=436613.23437423998) at
>> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_timer.c:621
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #14 0x00007f23b4bf2fae in
>> _ecore_main_loop_iterate_internal
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (obj=obj@entry=0x40000000012d, pd=pd@entry
>> =0x5644411fd460,
>> > > >> > > > >>>> once_only=once_only@entry=0) at
>> > > >> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_main.c:2431
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #15 0x00007f23b4bf383f in _ecore_main_loop_begin
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (obj=obj@entry=0x40000000012d, pd=pd@entry=0x5644411fd460)
>> at
>> > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_main.c:1231
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #16 0x00007f23b4bf7e6d in _efl_loop_begin
>> (obj=0x40000000012d,
>> > > >> > > > >>>> pd=0x5644411fd460) at ../src/lib/ecore/efl_loop.c:57
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #17 0x00007f23b4bf7233 in efl_loop_begin
>> (obj=0x40000000012d)
>> > > >> at
>> > > >> > > > >>>> src/lib/ecore/efl_loop.eo.c:28
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #18 0x00007f23b4bf390c in ecore_main_loop_begin () at
>> > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_main.c:1316
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #19 0x0000564440cb8c50 in main (argc=<optimized out>,
>> > > >> > > argv=<optimized
>> > > >> > > > >>>> out>) at ../src/bin/e_main.c:1121
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) fr 5
>> > > >> > > > >>>> #5 0x00007f23a57df211 in _ibox_icon_fill
>> (ic=0x5644419a2910) at
>> > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/modules/ibox/e_mod_main.c:636
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 636 if ((ic->ibox->inst->ci->show_preview) &&
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (edje_object_part_exists(ic->o_holder,
>> "e.swallow.preview")))
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) list
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 631 }
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 632
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 633 static void
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 634 _ibox_icon_fill(IBox_Icon *ic)
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 635 {
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 636 if ((ic->ibox->inst->ci->show_preview) &&
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (edje_object_part_exists(ic->o_holder,
>> "e.swallow.preview")))
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 637 _ibox_icon_fill_preview(ic, EINA_FALSE);
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 638 else
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 639 _ibox_icon_fill_icon(ic);
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 640
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) print ic
>> > > >> > > > >>>> $1 = (IBox_Icon *) 0x5644419a2910
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) print *ic
>> > > >> > > > >>>> $2 = {ibox = 0x564441cc3fe0, o_holder = 0x0, o_icon =
>> 0x0,
>> > > >> > > o_holder2 =
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 0x0, o_icon2 = 0x0, client = 0x0, drag = {start = 0
>> '\000',
>> > > >> dnd = 0
>> > > >> > > > >>>> '\000', x = 0, y = 0, dx = 0, dy = 128}}
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) print *(ic->ibox)
>> > > >> > > > >>>> $3 = {inst = 0x40, o_box = 0xe1, o_drop =
>> 0x564441a499b0,
>> > > >> > > o_drop_over =
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 0x7f23b4165cb0 <main_arena+304>, o_empty =
>> 0x7474756200726162,
>> > > >> > > > >>>> ic_drop_before = 0x81646c3698761235, drop_before =
>> 1103904792,
>> > > >> > > icons =
>> > > >> > > > >>>> 0x0, zone = 0x698761254, dnd_x = 0, dnd_y = 1769170290}
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) print *(ic->ibox->inst)
>> > > >> > > > >>>> Cannot access memory at address 0x40
>> > > >> > > > >>>> ========================================
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> So somehow we've got some garbage pointer in
>> ic->ibox->inst.
>> > > >> > > > >>>
>> > > >> > > > >>> actualluy.. ic->ibox is junk. iut happens to point to
>> some
>> > > >> memory we
>> > > >> > > can
>> > > >> > > > >>> access but it's full of ... garbage. like dnd_y is and
>> > > >> unrealistic
>> > > >> > > coord.
>> > > >> > > > >>> zone does not look like a proper pointer (o_drop does)
>> and
>> > > >> o_box is
>> > > >> > > > >>> nothing like what a pointer should look like.
>> drop_before seems
>> > > >> junky
>> > > >> > > > >>> too. so ... what happened to ic->ibox? or ... for that
>> matter
>> > > >> what
>> > > >> > > > >>> happened to ic? maybe ic has been freed and now the ibox
>> ptr
>> > > >> has been
>> > > >> > > > >>> overwritten to point to some junk as i cant imagine the
>> ibox
>> > > >> struct
>> > > >> > > being
>> > > >> > > > >>> freed as that struct is still there for the ibox gadget.
>> so ...
>> > > >> > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > >> Ah I see. It certainly makes debugging easier if you know
>> what a
>> > > >> > > pointer
>> > > >> > > > >> is supposed to look like. :-)
>> > > >> > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > >>> well turning on ASAN (search enlightenment.org for asan
>> and
>> > > >> how to
>> > > >> > > enable
>> > > >> > > > >>> it) in efl and e would probably instantly point out the
>> > > >> problem. you
>> > > >> > > can
>> > > >> > > > >>> try that as an exercise in being able to divine better
>> debug
>> > > >> info
>> > > >> > > from
>> > > >> > > > >>> efl
>> > > >> > > > >>> + e. it's pretty easy now with meson.... :) unlike
>> valgrind
>> > > >> it's not
>> > > >> > > > >>> prohibitively slow either. it's usable day to day on a
>> fast
>> > > >> enough
>> > > >> > > > >>> machine.
>> > > >> > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > >> Interesting. Thanks for the pointer to new debugging
>> tools. (And
>> > > >> yes,
>> > > >> > > > >> valgrind is really slow.) I found the documentation you
>> > > >> mentioned. I
>> > > >> > > > >> think I will give it a try before applying your patch,
>> just to
>> > > >> see
>> > > >> > > what
>> > > >> > > > >> happens and to be able to play around with it for a bit.
>> > > >> > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > >>> and i can see the problem:
>> > > >> > > > >>>
>> > > >> > > > >>> ecore_timer_add(0.1, _ibox_cb_icon_fill_timer, ic);
>> > > >> > > > >>>
>> > > >> > > > >>> a timer is created to fill the icon in 0.1 sec... but ...
>> > > >> imagine
>> > > >> > > the icon
>> > > >> > > > >>> (ic) has been freed/deleted BEFORE the timer fires... in
>> 0.1sec
>> > > >> from
>> > > >> > > > >>> now. ... someone added a timer without remembering to
>> delete it
>> > > >> when
>> > > >> > > the
>> > > >> > > > >>> icon the timer is for is deleted! a bit sloppy...
>> > > >> > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > >> Bad boy. ;-)
>> > > >> > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > >> This means that on my old laptop I never ran into any
>> issues
>> > > >> because
>> > > >> > > it
>> > > >> > > > >> is just too slow for this race condition to occur?
>> > > >> > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > >>> d12acf0d01e628d71548adbb77670c7e40aef043 commit in git
>> now fixes
>> > > >> > > that.
>> > > >> > > > >>> problem is in e ... not efl :)
>> > > >> > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > >> Great. Thanks! As said before, I will try to tackle this
>> with
>> > > >> ASAN
>> > > >> > > first
>> > > >> > > > >> for training and then see how your solution is holding
>> up. That
>> > > >> will
>> > > >> > > > >> hopefully be tomorrow.
>> > > >> > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > >> Now to the second point of my first mail from yesterday:
>> Is
>> > > >> there any
>> > > >> > > > >> way for me to disable/silence the error popup on startup
>> that no
>> > > >> ACPI
>> > > >> > > > >> daemon is running?
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > oh yes. install acpid and have it run. :)
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >> Cheers,
>> > > >> > > > >> Florian
>> > > >> > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> I tried to poke into the preceding frames (#6 and #7)
>> but only
>> > > >> hit
>> > > >> > > > >>>> optimized out variables. This is efl territory, right?
>> This
>> > > >> morning
>> > > >> > > I
>> > > >> > > > >>>> recompiled enlightenment with "-O0 -g" but I guess I
>> should
>> > > >> also
>> > > >> > > have
>> > > >> > > > >>>> done the same to efl. Well, I can do this the next time
>> I'm in
>> > > >> > > office if
>> > > >> > > > >>>> helpful.
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> Any ideas?
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> For now I gave ibar a try. Not exactly a replacement
>> for me. I
>> > > >> don't
>> > > >> > > > >>>> need a launcher (using everything and favorites menu
>> instead)
>> > > >> or a
>> > > >> > > > >>>> tracker of running windows (I know what windows I have
>> open).
>> > > >> I only
>> > > >> > > > >>>> need something to show my minimized windows so that I
>> can open
>> > > >> them
>> > > >> > > > >>>> again (I know, they appear with Alt+Tab...) and this
>> seems to
>> > > >> be the
>> > > >> > > > >>>> only scenario that cannot be reproduced by ibar. -- I
>> guess I
>> > > >> never
>> > > >> > > > >>>> bought into the MacOS style launcher bar. ;-)
>> > > >> > > > >>>
>> > > >> > > > >>> ibar will show both running and minimized icons for
>> windows ..
>> > > >> but
>> > > >> > > ok -
>> > > >> > > > >>> yeah - it doesnt "show only minimized"... :)
>> > > >> > > > >>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> Cheers
>> > > >> > > > >>>> Florian
>> > > >> > > > >>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>> On 9/4/21 1:25 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 21:04:35 +0900 Florian Schaefer <
>> > > >> > > list...@netego.de>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> said:
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> quick - if you unload the ibox module ... does the
>> problem
>> > > >> stop?
>> > > >> > > that
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> crash is inside ibox code - memory it's accessing is
>> > > >> bad/wrong -
>> > > >> > > why i
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> don't know. not more information. like 363 in ibox is:
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> if ((ic->ibox->inst->ci->show_preview) &&
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> (edje_object_part_exists(ic->o_holder,
>> "e.swallow.preview")))
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> so what is ic? whats is ic->ibox, ic->ibox->inst,
>> > > >> > > ic->ibox->inst->ci ?
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> if you attach gdb when e crashes and dump these values
>> - i'd
>> > > >> know
>> > > >> > > more.
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> maybe. I actually stopped using ibox a while ago since
>> ibar
>> > > >> does
>> > > >> > > both
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> effectively these days. perhaps it is an ibox bug and
>> i havent
>> > > >> > > seen it
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> as i dont use it. so try the above, if it goes away -
>> attach
>> > > >> gdb
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> i can say that i dont see the problem here with ibox
>> enabled
>> > > >> and
>> > > >> > > on amd
>> > > >> > > > >>>>> + e (git).
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Dear everyone,
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> so I got a new desktop PC at work and the first thing
>> I did,
>> > > >> of
>> > > >> > > course,
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> was to install Debian sid and enlightenment-git. ;-)
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> The machine has a Nvidia T600 card and this is where
>> troubles
>> > > >> > > probably
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> begin. As I kind of need the graphics performance for
>> CAD I
>> > > >> went
>> > > >> > > with
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> the drivers from Nvidia (the stock open source
>> drivers were
>> > > >> > > terribly
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> slow).
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Now what happens is that enlightenment crashes often.
>> Like
>> > > >> kind of
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> constantly. I got the impression it happens mostly
>> when
>> > > >> several
>> > > >> > > windows
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> are going through their appearance fade-in transition
>> at the
>> > > >> same
>> > > >> > > time.
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Then the "red screen of death" appears and I need to
>> press
>> > > >> F1 to
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> continue. With some applications this happens always
>> (Eagle
>> > > >> > > anyone?)
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> with others only sometimes. After the forced restart
>> many
>> > > >> windows
>> > > >> > > (e.g.
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> terminology always, firefox sometimes) need to be
>> minimized
>> > > >> and
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> uncovered again for their content to display again.
>> Some
>> > > >> dialog
>> > > >> > > windows
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> won't even show their content from the beginning and
>> instead
>> > > >> just
>> > > >> > > some
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> different portion of the screen. Needless to say that
>> for a
>> > > >> > > machine at
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> work this is not an optimal situation.
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> The most pressing issue are of course the crashes. I
>> > > >> recompiled
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> everything with debugging symbols and optimization
>> disabled
>> > > >> (or at
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> least I thought so, some things seem still to be
>> optimized
>> > > >> away)
>> > > >> > > to
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> get some meaningful dumps. One of which I uploaded to
>> > > >> pastebin
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> (pastebin.com/YWSarC10) hoping that it makes sense to
>> > > >> > > someone.
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> I am sure that it is not E that is "at fault" but
>> Nvidia,
>> > > >> but for
>> > > >> > > now I
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> need to find a way around this so that I can work
>> without
>> > > >> having
>> > > >> > > to
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> reset everything every five minutes. Any ideas?
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Oh, I also tried to disable OpenGL in the compositor
>> > > >> settings and
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> choosing the software option. And it still crashes!
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> For starters I was hoping that I can just switch off
>> all the
>> > > >> > > window
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> transition-fading eye-candy but I did not understand
>> whether
>> > > >> this
>> > > >> > > is
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> possible. Is it?
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Finally, being a desktop system (my first in like 10
>> years
>> > > >> or so)
>> > > >> > > it
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> does not run an acpi daemon. I don't really see any
>> reason
>> > > >> to do
>> > > >> > > so.
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Therefore E also complains on every startup that no
>> acpi
>> > > >> daemon
>> > > >> > > can be
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> found. I did not find any compile time or runtime
>> options to
>> > > >> > > disable
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> acpi. Is there a way to silence this error/warning?
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Cheers,
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Florian
>> >
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