On 11/18/03 12:06 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>> Perhaps the font you chose for your messages does not support that
>>> character?
>> 
>> Arial?!  Besides, the symbol shows up correctly in the Subject line.  Same
>> font.
>> 
>> It's obviously a bug.  I'm just surprised that Arkady is seeing it in
>> Entourage X.  Usually these bugs get corrected after having surfaced in
>> Entourage 2001.  And I don't understand why you and Paul are *not* seeing
>> it, unless it was fixed in the 10.1.5 updater (Arkady is in 10.1.4).
>> 
>> Just noticed something *really* weird.  Even though I have my font prefs set
>> for Arial and even though this compose window shows Arial in the (greyed
>> out) font box, PopChar says I'm in Geneva.  Are plain text messages composed
>> as Geneva by default, regardless of how they're displayed?  If so, that's a
>> new one on me.  
>> 
>> Anyway, it turns out that Geneva has the Apple symbol and Arial doesn't.
>> Odd as this is in itself, it doesn't change the fact that the symbol shows
>> up in the Subject line but not in the message body.
> 
> Arial is an MS font - I wouldn't expect to see an Apple symbol in a standard
> MS font. Geneva is an Apple font. It's quite likely that your version of
> Arial has no character at all for shift-option-K. Is that right?

Correct.

> In that case another font would be substituted.

Why?  Why would Entourage all on its own switch fonts when I told it I
wanted Arial (even if Arial is lacking characters)?  If I switch to HTML,
the font stays Arial.

My plain text message font is set for Arial 12.  This message (and *any*
blank new message window I open) claims to be Geneva 14.  Makes no sense
(unless that's a plain text *sending* default, heretofore unknown � at least
by me).

> That's what you're seeing I think - Geneva is a system font and would have
> every keyboard typable character. So it makes a good substitute.

Yes it would.  But Entourage shouldn't be switching to it unless I so
specify.

By the way, none of this has any bearing on Arkady's bug!

Beth

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