On 11/18/03 12:59 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In plain text, what you see is just a display font for you. It has nothing
> to do with the information being sent. So if you type the keys for any
> MacRoman character, that's the information that will be sent down the line.
> In order that you can see what you're sending, Entourage finds a system font
> that can display every MacRoman character - every character typable using
> option key (with and without shift). It's doing you a favor.

Thanks for the explanation, which makes perfect sense.  I've been doing some
experimenting and I've found some interesting anomalies though.  They
probably only pertain to Entourage 2001, however, and won't be of interest
to anyone else ;-).

When I take your suggestion from another post, copy and paste the Subject
line into (in my case) Simple Text, the font does indeed show as Geneva �
just as it does when I tab into the Subject line of the email itself and
open PopChar (which, for anyone who isn't familiar with it, shows every
character of the font you're currently using and displays the name of that
font).

However, as I said before, PopChar indicates my body text is Geneva also,
even though I have it set to display as Arial.  Now, if there were actually
a font substitution, I would see the Apple symbol instead of a square, but I
don't (so Entourage is not really doing me any favor � see below).

When I switch my display font to Cairo, the same thing happens.  I see Cairo
in the dimmed font box (I don't find that confusing, by the way, nor
irrelevant), I type Cairo in the message body (but the Subject line remains
Geneva, as expected), and yet PopChar still reads the Cairo as Geneva.

So ... either PopChar is wrong (possible, but I've never seen it make a
mistake) or else when typing in the message body of a plain text email in
Entourage (at least 2001), regardless of one's chosen display font, the
system "reads" the font as Geneva.  It would be interesting if someone out
there who's using Entourage X and PopChar would check to see if the same
thing happens.

On 11/18/03 2:04 PM, "Paul Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There's one thing that's odd. I don't have time to test at the moment, but
> it seems that the people who are using a default plain text font which does
> not display the apple get font substitution - and a spelling error - when
> composing new messages, but don't get font substitution when reading
> received messages that contain the Apple. They get a square or similar. Is
> that correct?

No.  My comments misled you.  Sorry.  I am *not* getting font substitution,
as I explained above.  I didn't make it clear that what was telling me I was
in Geneva was PopChar rather than some anachronistic Entourage 2001 toolbar.

Nor do I get a spelling error when I type Shift-Option-K.  All I get is an
empty square indicating a non-existent character.  Arkady was talking about
so many aspects of the problem in his post that I confused the Spelling
issue with the display issue.  In other words, I do not have the same
problem as he, so just about everything I have said on this thread is
irrelevant to his situation :-).

But this isn't (hopefully):  The fact that Arkady sees the spelling error in
Entourage, but not in Word, is very peculiar.   They do use the same
spelling apparatus and Custom Dictionary in Office X, right?  And, as you've
said, the fact that the symbol appears different to him in a compose window
than in a received email is also very weird (providing that his is a
strictly plain text environment).  I also don't understand how he could
throw out his Custom Dictionary and not have a new one replace it.  That
should be impossible.  Hopefully, he'll put in an appearance soon and answer
your question about plain text vs. HTML, among other things.

Beth

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