EOS 3 did come after 1N and before 1V, though. I still remember lots of discussion on the list whether to switch from 1N to 3 or not. So it is inaccurate to say that EOS 3 remained the same while EOS 1N upgraded to 1V. At any rate, I am not sure if EOS 3 is a good comparison. Canon has not updated any of the high(er) end film SLR for good reasons. With the way it is going for films, I don't see EOS 3 (or 1V as well?) gets any update ever. But 5D is in a somewhat different boat. This is a "no man' land" per se for now. It is a good spot that Canon is sitting on. From business perspective, one can either wait until the situation becomes dire than update, or go proactive and lead the market. Canon has achieved today's leading position by doing the latter, leaving Nikon and all others in the dust for the longest time. Now must they wait until someone is breathing at their neck or even teasing in front their nose before they do anything? Hasn't the 30D fiasco taught Canon anything?
Actually, I am not expecting major technical upgrade of 5D. Some minor upgrade never hurts but it is fine as it is. I am much more interested in a sub-$2000 5D. That is a position that Canon can "kill off" the onslaught of D300 for good. At similar prices, most if not all of D300's advantages will vanish in the face of full frame. That is where Canon needs to be: seize back the mid field. Then lower end will naturally follow because the mid field is where the vast majority low end customers look at as upgrade path or "insurance". Spec wise, this will be similar to 20D-30D update, but business wise, it is quite a different ball game. It opens up a new market that is presently still somewhat closed to a good number of advanced amateurs for cost reasons. $2000 is a significant psychological barrier. In US, with various rebates, 5D had been occasionally sold at nearly such prices. But those incentives have not been extended to beyond US, and certainly not on a more consistent basis. A sub-$2000 5D can really make a difference. I hope Canon agrees with me. Thanks, Francis -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Pfeiffer Sent: September 5, 2007 6:30 PM To: eos@a1.nl Subject: Re: EOS Any rumours on 5D replacement? I don't know if it's conspicuous or not, since there's no history in the 5D lineage to draw from. I suspect it still sells well, and that if it is updated in the spring, we'll see something like the 20D-->30D upgrade. That is, a bigger LCD, newer DIGIC, little if any change in resolution, and a grip with wireless capability. There's really not another camera that competes with it today, so Canon is not exactly in a desperate position. The D3/D300 battles will be fought with the 40D and 1D Mk III bodies. Consider the film counterpart, the EOS 3. While there were several Elan upgrades II/7/7N and at least one 1n to 1v, the EOS 3 remains the same even today. I'll bet the only thing significant about the 5D successor is that the street price in the US is under $2000 ($1995 is my guess). Tom P. * **** ******* *********************************************************** * For list instructions, including unsubscribe, see: * http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/eos_list.htm ***********************************************************
