On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 15:53, Michael Schwendt <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:13:52 -0600, Stephen wrote: > >> The best thing about EPEL is that there are no " the EPEL project >> leaders" beyond those that are interested in the project. > > There's a page that distinguishes between the > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL_Steering_Committee > and the > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL_SIG > It's rather detailed and, for example, explains that the EPEL Steering > Committee handles "practical packaging [...] maintenance and update policy > for EPEL", and therefore its members should have interest in an issue like > this.
Yeah... well ok I will start rewriting those. >> Since you have expressed a lot of interest in things.. > > Whether I have "a lot of interest" in EPEL, some interest only, or no > interest at all, depends on several criteria. One such criterion is > whether EPEL is founded on solid groundwork. > > The fact that this Mock breakage would have been found by a broken deps > check (which is on the EPEL schedule for years) is just a minor detail. You are correct. I will see what can be done to fix this with the koji side of things. >> what are your ideas on how we can fix this problem? > > I don't understand EPEL yet. Me either brother, me either. >> 1) We should remove the FAQ documents? > > Seriously? Yes. Seriously.. I know it sounded snarky, but I am getting over a 2 day stomach flu bug and am just wanting ideas on what we can do right. > There's a lot of "talk" in those FAQs, which doesn't match reality. I'd > favour a more honest/self-critical view of what EPEL is able to deliver > today … as opposed to what it could deliver if it had enough volunteers > to contribute. > >> 2) Would you like to be the EPEL-EL4 Tsar to deal with these issues? > > At present, you could not even tell _how_ "to deal with these issues". > I've found only one. How many others are there? (e.g. run-time issues) > > One thing for sure, it wouldn't be much fun to have one group bring > a package into EPEL and see how they drop the ball long before dist EOL. > And then point at the FAQ and hope for another person (or group) to > drag the package out of the mud. > > Bodhi doesn't know about any substantial testing of EPEL updates: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/metrics/?release=EL-4 > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/metrics/?release=EL-5 > Yes.. that needs to change also. -- Stephen J Smoogen. “The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance.” Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University. "We have a strategic plan. It's called doing things."" — Herb Kelleher, founder Southwest Airlines _______________________________________________ epel-devel-list mailing list [email protected] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/epel-devel-list
