On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 01:15:29PM -0500, Carl George wrote:
> > So, maintainers would need to be careful to make sure epel8-next or
> > whatever packages are rpm 'newer' at all times to make this work right?
> > Or I guess if they were fixing soname issues like above, dnf might be
> > smart enough to pull in the next version anyhow even if it was lower
> > than the epel8 one (unless the user used --best).
> 
> Yes, I believe dnf helps us out here as you described.  We could also
> document that packagers should take care to ensure the upgrade path works
> from epel8 to epel8-next, similar to Fedora branches.  Fedora has the added
> benefit of the dist macro always ensuring the release field is higher on
> higher branches, but in our cases it's .el8 for both.  Maybe we could
> consider redefining dist for epel8-next builds to accomplish the same thing,
> but I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

Changing the dist tag is pretty easy (can be done in koji)...

% rpmdev-vercmp 1.0-1.el8 1.0-1.epel8stream 
1.0-1.el8 < 1.0-1.epel8stream

Might also make it easier to see where packages came from?

> > So, say I have package foo that needs a rebuild to work with stream.
> > I request a branch, do a build and everything there is happy.
> > Now, 8.x comes out and the main epel8 one needs a rebuild. I do that and
> > push it out and everything is happy again... but what about the
> > epel8-stream/next package? It just sits there older and unused?
> 
> Yes, but I don't see a problem with this.

ok. I'm not sure it's a problem per se, but something to note. 

> > I assume this would work like playground/rawhide as far as landing in
> > the buildroot right after build and going out in the daily compose?
> > Or would you want to use bodhi updates?
> 
> My preference would be to use bodhi updates.  I think updates getting
> published without review would degrade the experience for CentOS Stream
> users.  We could do a lower karma/time threashold than regular EPEL if
> desired.
> 

ok. Thats a non trivial amount of work added on. (creating bodhi release
for it, updating sync scripts and punji config, etc). Can be done, but
will definitely be more work. 

kevin

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