*No arguments:* Presently, there IS no way of substantiating whether (or NOT) we are not just some holographic projection in a bubble (One of God's favorite movies?). Still, I'd rather hold out for the belief that we have at least *some* degree of self-determination - and efficacy - as *deluded*as that MAY be - however "tethered" that we may indeed be. So yeah, you made a good point.
Perhaps, it is the* repeated* witnessing of the pedantic drivel that the so-called 'pundits' pass off as "informed dialogue," or just the pervasive militant ignorance and over-simplification of the truly complex issues, while invariably "muddling" the otherwise simply stated and resolved, that has me feeling like it's all a waste of breath - an exercise in futility, to try to bring a more heightened sense of "origins" to the public purview. Grant it, recently I've been feeling a bit disillusioned / disheartened, but I really question the "readiness to receive" of our fellow humans... like we're all on a ship of fools... running fool's errands. No, I am NOT suicidal, but admittedly, I'm not my optimistic self nowadays - some might refer to my state as "morose," and I could not fault their assessment, but "one man's garbage...." You know the rest.... *Again, good luck in you searches & deliberations. And I mean that! *> If the rest of humanity were as curious & open-minded as yourselves, maybe I wouldn't be felling this way. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:33 AM, awori achoka <awori.ach...@gmail.com> wrote: > Substantiate? Sounds like playing God---who can when even our existence as > intellingence is in doubt? > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Timothy Monicken <chreod...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Clyve, >> >> I wish you luck with your new group, I am going to hold off for the time >> being as I have too many irons in the fire to revisit the beliefs, >> rationales, & dogmas presented in the various religious contexts of this >> world... all of it *IS*, and will continue to be, in the final analysis, >> *conjectural**:* >> >> It will *only* be when we, as a species, are capable of *ch**anging form*, >> to escape our physical *boundedness* - to become inter-dimensional >> beings, that we will be able to fully grasp the entire story of our, and the >> universe's, *origins*. > *Until then, all the theorizing cannot be >> substantiated....* >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Clyve <origins.log...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I started a new group, "ORIGINS: Religion, Evolution, & Cosmology" to >>> discuss general topics in any subject relating to origins of mankind >>> or the Cosmos. I mean for it to be a more inclusive forum for ALL >>> religious and spiritual believers as well as scientists and >>> philosophers alike. It is moderated to avoid SPAM. I hope this can be >>> a good another useful group and welcome anyone here to come. >>> >>> Clyve. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Epistemology" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to epistemol...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<epistemology%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Epistemology" group. >> To post to this group, send email to epistemol...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<epistemology%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > > nubiaafrika.blogspot.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Epistemology" group. > To post to this group, send email to epistemol...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<epistemology%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to epistemol...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en.