On Jun 28, 8:55 am, Georges Metanomski <zg...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Ch:> Whatever might be meant by the First > > Enlightenment, it is highly > > doubtful that Kant was any kind of foundation for it. > > Most Intellectual Historians would put its roots back in > > the 17thC. > > Jonathan Israel for one, establishes Spinoza and the > > foundational > > thinker that set the E going. And he died 50 years before > > Kant was > > even born. > > ================== > G: > 1.When you meet Mr Jonathan Israel, tell him that he is a silly ass. > Spinoza was a dogmatic speculator diametrically opposed of the axiomatic > falsifiable spirit of the First Scientific Revolution.
So what? What make your colonisation of the term Enlightenment any better than his. http://books.google.com/books/about/Radical_Enlightenment.html?id=8nb0tpZvXBMC Maybe you should read something in your life? Your ignorance is marched by your ignorance of Israel. > > 2.The bedrock of the FE is the First Scientific Revolution of Galileo, > Descartes and Newton. Voltaire, Rousseau, Diderot etc. were a thin pick > of the iceberg often talking through their hats. Ignorance upon ignorance. You can say this about ANY point in the evolution of scientific development, including our own. > > 3.Founding does not mean preceding. As Kant conceived ontological > foundation of the First Scientific Revolution, it must have been there > before him. Just as Einstein created the Second Scientific Revolution > prior to founding it ontologically in his "Physics and Reality", which > is for us what Kritik was for the First Enlightenment. Do you think a cigar is a cigar, or are you overcome with prurient passion when someone offers you a smoke? Your terms are arbitrary and are naive historicism. May I suggest you try a little Popper? "The Poverty of Historicism" would be a good place to start. You might also try The Open Society and it Enemies. > And its clear like a mountain source that, as I write, That's what the Christians say about their fantasy too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en.