Hi Lonnie... there's a post thread in here (epistemology) titled tilting at my own "legal" windmill... any comments....? where I've copied a portion of a state court filing I made not long ago in which I took issue with a whole bunch of officials and judges.....(as a pro se litigator)....as plaintiff.... not defendant... I took them to court... I've gone through the routine before.... in the 1980's-1990's, I went up through appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court, as well as through the state courts.....lost at every stage.... but I fought the fight and I was right all along.... my second favorite saying is.... "You, the state, you the government, you are the criminals".... so I think you and I may have a common aversion going on in that regard.....I fought them on First Amendment (speech) and on due process and equal access rights... civil constitutional issues , not financial ones.... I agree with what you have to say, generally, but I still don't get the whole "proxy" notion that you bring up... so I'd like to reserve judgment on that... but YEAH....like I say... I prefer the French Revolution model when it comes to "sovereign" tyrants... Off with their heads....or ... as I say in my nominal9 Censorship Hall of shame.... Damn them to "an eternity in Hell, literally with their heads stuck up their asses and with shit for brains, just as they have figuratively lived their lives here on this earth" (though I'm agnostic when it comes to religion...... HAR HAR HAR HAR.
We make a pair.... I just may be "crazier" than you are..... HAR.... Crazy like foxes... right? Archytas..... he's still got some institutional polite society street creds....the Whoos... On Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:03:03 AM UTC-4, Lonnie Clay wrote: > > Just as an experiment, let's design a better government's constitution. > I'll lead off with : > 1) The right of the citizens to revise government structure, laws, > regulations, rules, or decisions by referendum shall not be hindered. The > passage of revisions by referendum requires a 3/4 majority vote. > > 2) The freedoms of the people and organizations within the nation as > specified below shall not be hindered. > 2a) Communication of information within the nation is guaranteed without > government restraint. > 2b) The right to association of individuals and organizations is > guaranteed without government restraint. > 2c) Gatherings of people are protected from government interference > without restraint. > 2d) Citizenship shall be granted automatically to persons born either of > citizen parents or within the nation's borders. > 2e) Citizenship may be acquired according to government laws by any > individual or organization of citizens. > 2f) Each citizen has the right to one vote, regardless of legal status, > including criminals, minors, and the legally incompetent. > 2g) No government entity shall ever revoke citizenship except for proven > treason, or at the certified request of the citizen and the citizen's > chosen associates. > 2h) Citizens vote either directly in referendums, for themselves as > citizen legislators, or by assigning a proxy to a chosen citizen legislator. > 2i) The proxy of a citizen may be changed at any time by the citizen's > choice, but not by the holder of a proxy. > 2j) The right of citizens to defend themselves with the weapons of their > choice shall not be limited except for violent criminals. > 2k) A citizen shall not be classed as a violent criminal unless that > citizen has been tried and convicted of a violent crime by a citizen jury > of at least 12 citizens in good standing. > 2l) A citizen under legal assault has a right to an experienced lawyer of > the citizen's choice with access to all information pertinent to the legal > issue. > 2m) A citizen convicted of a crime has a right to appeal to a higher court > and also to submit the evidence of the case to referendum voting deciding > guilt or innocence. > 2n) Citizens have the right to privacy and freedom from government > interference in their personal affairs. Personal affairs are those which > have not been proven as detrimental to society according to law and public > referendum. > 2o) Citizens have the right to withhold information whenever the > information cannot be proven to be essential to national security. > 2p) A citizen specifically has the right to withhold self incriminating > information during the period from being charged with a crime until trial > sentence is passed. > 2q) The burden of proof that a crime has been committed rests upon > society. A citizen does not have to prove innocence. > 2r) A citizen shall not be repeatedly charged with the same offense, or > with similar charges based upon the same body of evidence. > 2s) A citizen shall not be incarcerated before or during trial unless a > grand jury has determined that the citizen poses a clear threat to society. > However, a citizen accused of a violent crime may be placed under armed > guard at the accusing authority's discretion. > 2t) A citizen has the right to a prompt trial and/or petition for > referendum when criminal charges have been made. Delay in excess of three > times the average waiting time for trial to begin shall result in charges > being dropped. Trials shall not be protracted for legal delays by > prosecutors. > 2u) A citizen accused of a crime automatically has the right to sue the > accuser for damages due to defamation of character at the accuser's > expense. However, all awarded damages and expenses must be repaid if the > citizen is found to be guilty as charged. > 2v) Court or petition for referendum expenses shall be paid by the guilty > party, or if the accused is found to be innocent by the government legal > system. > > > 3) Government shall consist of citizens, legislative, executive, and > judicial branches. > 3a) The citizens within a government's jurisdiction have ultimate > authority through referendums. > 3b) Citizens may overrule or revise any aspect of government through > referendum. > 3c) A referendum shall commence at government expense whenever one percent > of the citizens within that government's jurisdiction have petitioned for > it to be held. > 3d) Petitions and referendum votes shall be verified by the most practical > means available, according to common opinion. > 3e) Referendums shall remain open until at least 3/4 of the citizens > within the government's jurisdiction have voted. A referendum is decided if > 3/4 of those voting are in agreement or disagreement with the referendum's > proposal. > > 4) The legislature rules are : > 4a) Legislators have voting power for the purpose of policy decisions > according to how many citizen proxies they hold. > 4b) Legislators apportion funds to government activities from the tax > payments of those citizens whose proxies they hold. > 4c) Funds may be transferred from the tax account of one legislator to > another in exchange for an agreed upon policy vote. > 4d) Under no circumstances shall more funds be allocated to a government > function than specified in the enabling policy legislation. If an excess > for a government policy is apportioned during voting, that excess shall be > proportionately distributed according to number of proxies held into the > tax accounts of legislators. > 4e) Legislators need not be physically present at any particular location > to vote provided they have a secure means of communicating with fellow > legislators. > 4f) All legislation shall be fully disclosed to the citizens, including > all debate on the merits of policy or apportionment legislation. > > 5) The executive rules are : > 5a) Any executive officeholder or employee may be removed from office at > any time for any reason by a citizen referendum or a 3/4 majority of > legislative policy voters in a quorum of 3/4 of all citizens according to > proxy holders' authorizations. > 5b) The executive branch is charged with the task of implementing > legislative policy and fund apportionments. > 5c) The executive branch is prohibited from issuing laws, rules, > regulations, guidelines, policies, or any other government decision which > is not justified by a specific policy of the Constitution, referendum of > the citizens, or legislative policy decisions. > 5d) The executive officeholders are organized as specified by the > legislators. > > 6) The judicial rules are : > 6a) The Supreme court shall consist of 12 or more judges selected by the > legislature. > 6b) The Supreme court only has the authority to decide constitutional > issues. > 6c) All judges hold office at the discretion of the citizens and > legislature and may be removed from office in the same manner as the > executive clause 5a). > 6d) Judgement authority rises with court level as determined by the > legislature, but in all cases the citizens may overrule a court through > referendum. > 6e) Trial shall be by citizen jury in all criminal cases. > 6f) At the discretion of the accused, trial for civil cases may be either > by citizen jury or a single judge. > 6g) A panel of at least three highly experienced judges shall convene to > hear appeals. > 6h) All court proceedings shall either be broadcast live through the > internet, open to the general public, or both. > 6i) All evidence introduced in any court shall be placed in open record on > the internet except when certified as detrimental to national security by > the legislature. > 6j) False evidence shall be punishable as specified by law policy of the > legislature. > 6k) The burden of proof that evidence is true rests upon the court. > 6l) The schedule of court hearings shall be publicized well in advance of > trial, the amount of notice before proceedings are held to be in accordance > with standard directives of the legislature. > 6m) Courts may issue legal documents to initiate proceedings as soon as > evidence of the need for a hearing is obtained. > 6n) Judges are appointed by the executive branch to fill vacancies, but > all judges are subject to dismissal by a simple majority of the legislature > until initially approved by the legislature. > > 7 Government taxation : > 7a) Government shall be funded by a voluntary tax upon wealth, denoted as > a "value". > 7b) Value exists in civil law only to the extent that the wealth tax has > been paid prior to the event at legal issue. > 7c) Value exists in criminal law according to applicable laws and statutes. > 7d) Victims may be compensated for damages during criminal hearings > according to a standard schedule of restitutions regardless of wealth tax > status. > 7e) No government shall tax economic activity, including but not limited > to sales, income, capital gains, estate, excises, tariffs, or value added > taxes. > > 8) The purpose of the government is to provide security, safety, and > prosperity for the citizens and manage relations with other governments. > > More is on the way after I take a break. Feel free to comment. > > Lonnie Courtney Clay > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
