Conceptus/ Res On Friday, July 12, 2013 7:59:55 PM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus wrote: > > That's a good analogy. > > Men and women are subjects /mind and objects/ bodies. > > The same about Photon. > > ============… > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Craig Weinberg > <whats...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> That's a false analogy, since "people" are not considered physical >> objects. Men and women are subjects. The mind is a subject. Feelings are >> subjects. Bodies are objects. >> >> "A Man can only be an object from the perspective of a second Man." >> >> A human body can only be an object from the perspective of another (or >> the parts of the same) body. True. >> >> " >> >> We cannot call Man a ‘’Man’’ unless he acts >> >> and act is a phenomenon within visual sensitivity." >> >> That's not only a false analogy of what I said, it is a pretty desperate >> straw man. Illumination is a visual phenomenon, but 'action' is not. If you >> wanted to make a legitimate analogy, you could say "We cannot call >> something a human body unless it feels, look, sounds, smells, behaves like >> a human body, and these qualities are phenomena within the scope of >> multiple human sensitivities'. Photons do not smell like anything, their >> effects are visual or thermal. Light does not refer to the thermal >> properties of photons, but to the visual effects which we observe through >> material instruments. >> >> "There can be no Man and no Woman without first having >> >> pre-quantitative capacities for sensing and making sense." >> >> This is true, so I have no problem agreeing with it. >> >> "People are abstractions - the reality is sensory-motor participation" >> >> People are sensory-motor participants already so they are concrete, but >> photons are not. To make this an honest analogy we might say that money is >> an abstraction, and the reality is the human socio-economic interaction, >> which is true. Photons are like money. They have no meaningful form except >> one that has been arbitrarily agreed upon - a sign, a signal, semaphore, >> metaphor, etc. Photons are not light, they are a sign of illumination being >> measured by something that cannot see. They are units of sensitivity >> misinterpreted as independent form-functions. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:24 AM, i.sadovnik socratus >> <is.so...@gmail.com<javascript:> >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> A Man can only be an object from the perspective of a second Man. >>> >>> # >>> >>> We cannot call Man a ‘’Man’’ unless he acts >>> >>> and act is a phenomenon within visual sensitivity. >>> >>> # >>> >>> There can be no Man and no Woman without first having >>> >>> pre-quantitative capacities for sensing and making sense. >>> >>> # >>> >>> People are abstractions - the reality is sensory-motor participation >>> >>> ==============…. >>> >>> By analogy to Craig Weinberg’s opinion. >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Craig Weinberg >>> <whats...@gmail.com<javascript:> >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> "Photon is not only an object, it is also a subject . ." >>>> >>>> A photon can only be an object from the perspective of a second photon. >>>> If we say "In the beginning there was a quantum of light--the rest is >>>> history-----!" then we can only mean that there was a quality of >>>> subjectivity which quantified part of itself as an object - a photon. We >>>> cannot call anything light unless it illuminates, and illumination is a >>>> phenomenon within visual sensitivity. There can be no quantum and no light >>>> without first having pre-quantitative capacities for sensing and making >>>> sense. Photons are abstractions - the reality is sensory-motor >>>> participation. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:56 AM, i.sadovnik socratus < >>>> is.so...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The History of Existence was written by Quantum of Light. >>>>> =====. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM, awori achoka >>>>> <awori....@gmail.com<javascript:> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In the beginning there was a quantum of light--the rest is >>>>>> history-----! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ** >>>>>> *Committed to strategic visioning and the state of our nationhood. >>>>>> * >>>>>> ** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:18 AM, sadovnik socratus < >>>>>> is.so...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We know that photon exist. ****** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But … … but . . . . in which reference frame ?**** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Someone had given answer: >>>>>>> ' If you try to search for 'reference frame ' for the photon >>>>>>> 'emission & re-emission', you will find only some >>>>>>> 'Quantum-Mechanics' Mumbo jumbo and very little else.'**** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My answer.**** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When the quantum of light * * moves with the constant speed * *c=1 >>>>>>> **** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the time for him is ‘frozen’ - stopped. Time doesn’t exist for him. >>>>>>> **** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the other words, he has eternal time. **** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It means that the reference frame where the quantum of light * * moves >>>>>>> **** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> also must be eternal, absolute. >>>>>>> ==..**** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> iss**** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:31:48 AM UTC+7, sadovnik socratus wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> photon is an energy/mass particle: E=Mc^2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this energy/mass ( E=Mc^2 ) is not constant parameter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this energy/mass ( E=Mc^2 ) can be changed ( together with speed ) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for example: E=Mc^2 changes into E=h*f and vice versa >>>>>>>> == >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 4:53 PM, nominal9 >>>>>>>> <nomi...@yahoo.com<javascript:> >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Photon<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon> >>>>>>>>> Do you agree with this? >>>>>>>>> so, is a photon energy or particle..... when, if both?...... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:03:26 AM UTC-4, sadovnik socratus >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> SRT by an uneducated Socratus. >>>>>>>>>> =. >>>>>>>>>> SRT is based on three facts ! >>>>>>>>>> Fact number 1: >>>>>>>>>> The constant speed of photon in vacuum is minimal. >>>>>>>>>> Fact number 2: >>>>>>>>>> The inertia of photon depends on its potential energy: E=Mc^2 >>>>>>>>>> Fact number 3: >>>>>>>>>> Every speed and energy >>>>>>>>>> ( including the speed and energy of photon ) are relative. >>>>>>>>>> ===. >>>>>>>>>> Israel Socratus >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "Epistemology" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to epistemology...@**googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> episte...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >>>>>>>>> . 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