Just to find out as a layman: When we say 10 and 90 percent of the universe are respectively seen and unseen matter, do we conclude that all that the universe has is matter? If so, the universe equals matter and even abstractions like God are matter? Mike Atovigba
On 9/29/13, epistemology@googlegroups.com <epistemology@googlegroups.com> wrote: > ============================================================================= > Today's Topic Summary > ============================================================================= > > Group: epistemology@googlegroups.com > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/topics > > - [epistemology 13234] Reference frames and Existence. [1 Update] > http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/960b92e624a2cf9a > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: [epistemology 13234] Reference frames and Existence. > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/960b92e624a2cf9a > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 1 ---------- > From: sadovnik socratus <is.socra...@gmail.com> > Date: Sep 29 02:40AM -0700 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/msg/f3e9b791896880f5 > > Awori asked : > > Could quantum of light be the original source of life forming atoms ? > > ====.... > > Answer: > > Lukin said. " What we have done is create a special type of medium in which > > photons interact with each other so strongly that they begin to act as > though > > they have mass, and they bind together to form molecules. > > This type of photonic bound state has been discussed theoretically for > > quite a while, but until now it hadn't been observed. > > / > *http://m.phys.org/news/2013-09-scientists-never-before-seen.html*<http://m.phys.org/news/2013-09-scientists-never-before-seen.html> > / > > =. > > I think they didn't create a new " special type of medium " > The cloud of rubidium atoms just a few degrees above absolute zero > > can be only in superconductivity state . . . . . > > then fired single photons into the cloud of superconductivity area .. . . . > > . . > > . . . something was happened . . . . > > they are binding together to form atoms. . . . > > What kind of atoms can they be? > > In my opinion: only atoms of helium II . . . . > > ? ! ? ! > > In my opinion: > > Light Quanta can be the original source of life forming atoms. > > # > > The behavior of photons in vacuum is deferent than in superconductivity > state. > > ==========================…. > > A mark of Quantum Gravity. > > =. > > The theory of gravity must begin from quantum gravity, > > But we have not theory of quantum gravity and therefore > > it is possible to find many theories about this subject. > > =. > > My opinion. > > =. > > To create theory of gravity ( quantum gravity ) is needed > > a mass , an energy and a reference frame where the gravity > > can be created. > > The reference frame is a vacuum. > > The condition of mass is E=kT > > The condition of energy is E=h*f > > Then the process of beginning of gravitation can have scheme: > > h*v = kT logW. > > h*v > kT logW. > > h*v < kT . > > About which mass am I talking ? > > At first I am talking about very strange element helium II > > ( because its temperature very near to absolute zero ) and > > then about the second layer helium I. > > Later this system begins to revolve. > > And again the revolving helium is very different from > > all another liquids. Helium II rotates as a solid body > > ( hard elastic tourniquets) ! > > As result of this revolving the hydrogen was created. > > The scheme: > > h*v -- - > He II - - > He I -- - > H ( +70%) -- - > > > He (ordinary +20% ) --- - > the remainder is about 2% > > Explanation about behavior of helium were given by > > P. Kapitza , L. Landau and E.L. Andronikashvili . > > ( Superconductivity, superfluidity. . . . etc ) > > # > > The process of quantum gravity can go only when the mass > > of helium II is gathered in Avogadro's number of particles > > ( in a local place ) > > And when Helium II rotates it must create > > Loschmidt's number of particles in a given volume. > > # > > The process of gathering Loschmidt's number of particles in > > a given volume cannot be often action. Therefore we can read > > that: '' All the matter that we can see, however, appears to be > > no more than about 4% of the total masses. More than 90% in > > the Universe is unseen - dark matter ''. > > It is primary conditions of quantum gravity in my opinion. > > ==. > > Best wishes. > > Israel Sadovnik Socratus > > =… > > > On Friday, September 27, 2013 2:05:50 PM UTC+2, Awori wrote: > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Epistemology" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. 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