Thanks for the advice. I have the workspace set up now and the hook is
being activated.  Unfortunately, the weaving is not happening.  I'll have
to explore a bit more and I'll bring Martin Lippert into the conversation
as well (since he's the original author of Equinox Weaving).  After we
learn a bit more, we'll get back to you.

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Watson <tjwat...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

>  It is a bit more involved to deploy this into your Kepler instance.  You
> have to be running a Kepler instance with a workspace that has loaded both
> the org.eclipse.osgi and org.eclipse.osgi.compatibility.state projects.
>  Then you have to export the projects using "Export->Plug-in
> Development->Deployable plug-ins and fragments" and for the destination you
> have to select "Install into host. Repository:".  This will deploy the new
> framework to your running installation and you must then restart Eclipse.
>  If all goes well Eclipse will restart successfully on the new framework.
>
> Note that this is not ready for prime-time, so I suggest you do this on a
> Kepler installation that you don't mind blowing up.  I find it easier to
> just run Eclipse on the new framework by launching a self-hosted Eclipse
> instance from your Eclipse workspace while you have the org.eclipse.osgi
> and org.eclipse.osgi.compatibility.state projects loaded.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Andrew Eisenberg ---03/08/2013 03:34:50
> PM---Hi Tom, Thanks for taking a look at this. AJDT is one o]Andrew
> Eisenberg ---03/08/2013 03:34:50 PM---Hi Tom, Thanks for taking a look at
> this.  AJDT is one of the main consumers
>
> From: Andrew Eisenberg <and...@eisenberg.as>
> To: Equinox development mailing list <equinox-dev@eclipse.org>,
> Date: 03/08/2013 03:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] IWeavingServiceFactory.createWeavingService
> takes a BundleDescription
> Sent by: equinox-dev-boun...@eclipse.org
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Thanks for taking a look at this.  AJDT is one of the main consumers
> of org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.hook through the
> org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.aspectj bundle.  It looks like you have
> also updated the org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.aspectj bundle.  I will
> get a chance to try this out next week.  Just to be sure, if I check
> out this branch of equinox and drop the osgi bundle into Kepler, will
> things hang together?
>
> regards,
> Andrew
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Thomas Watson <tjwat...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> > Keep in mind this is a discussion for Luna, not Kepler.  I have been
> > spending some time lately around the new framework implementation based
> on
> > the OSGi R5 generic capability/requirement model.
> >
> > I was looking at porting the Equinox weaving hooks
> > (org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.hook) over to a new Equinox framework
> > implementation that is based internally on the generic
> > capability/requirement model of the OSGi R5 specification.  This
> framework
> > implementation no longer is based on the old Equinox resolver API
> > (org.eclipse.osgi.service.resolver).  As such the weaving hook
> > implementation no longer has access to BundleDescription objects or a
> State
> > object at runtime.  Instead it would have access to
> > org.osgi.framework.wiring.BundleRevsion/BundleWiring objects.
> >
> > How disruptive would it be to make a breaking API change to
> > org.eclipse.equinox.service.weaving.IWeavingServiceFactory to take a
> > org.osgi.framework.wiring.BundleRevsion instead of the old
> > org.eclipse.osgi.service.resolver.BundleDescription and no longer take a
> > org.eclipse.osgi.service.resolver.State?
> >
> > I noticed the bundle org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.hook exports the package
> > org.eclipse.equinox.service.weaving with no version (defaulting to
> 0.0.0).
> > For the next release I suggest we bump this version to 1.0.0 and
> indicate a
> > breaking change for implementors of
> > org.eclipse.equinox.service.weaving.IWeavingServiceFactory.  I'm not sure
> > how many others outside of the org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.aspectj bundle
> > implement this interface.  But without this type of change I see no way
> to
> > support Equinox Weaving on the new framework.  Beyond this I still want
> > someone to investigate moving as much of the Equiniox weaving hooks onto
> the
> > standard OSGi WeavingHook services [1].
> >
> > If you want to see the work I have done so far then load up the
> > twatson/container branches from both the rt.equinox.framework [2] and
> > rt.equinox.bundles [3] git repositories.  You should be able to self-host
> > Eclipse if you load up the framework project (org.eclipse.osg) and the
> > compatibility state project (org.eclipse.osgi.compatibility.state) which
> > provides an implementation of the old equinox PlatformAdmin/State mainly
> to
> > support PDE.  I have not done any testing of the weaving hook changes.  I
> > only spent the morning getting rid of compile errors which pointed me to
> > this API issue with BundleDescription in the Equinox Weaving API.
> >
> > [1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=377422
> > [2]
> >
> http://git.eclipse.org/c/equinox/rt.equinox.framework.git/log/?h=twatson/container
> > [3]
> >
> http://git.eclipse.org/c/equinox/rt.equinox.bundles.git/log/?h=twatson/container
> >
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
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