I will be at EclipseCon.  If you and/or Martin are there, perhaps we can
get together to discuss the details there as well.

Tom





From:   Andrew Eisenberg <and...@eisenberg.as>
To:     Thomas Watson/Austin/IBM@IBMUS,
Cc:     Equinox development mailing list <equinox-dev@eclipse.org>,
            mlipp...@vmware.com
Date:   03/11/2013 06:11 PM
Subject:        Re: [equinox-dev] IWeavingServiceFactory.createWeavingService
            takes a BundleDescription
Sent by:        andrew.eisenb...@gmail.com



Thanks for the advice. I have the workspace set up now and the hook is
being activated.  Unfortunately, the weaving is not happening.  I'll have
to explore a bit more and I'll bring Martin Lippert into the conversation
as well (since he's the original author of Equinox Weaving).  After we
learn a bit more, we'll get back to you.

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Watson <tjwat...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
  It is a bit more involved to deploy this into your Kepler instance.  You
  have to be running a Kepler instance with a workspace that has loaded
  both the org.eclipse.osgi and org.eclipse.osgi.compatibility.state
  projects.  Then you have to export the projects using "Export->Plug-in
  Development->Deployable plug-ins and fragments" and for the destination
  you have to select "Install into host. Repository:".  This will deploy
  the new framework to your running installation and you must then restart
  Eclipse.  If all goes well Eclipse will restart successfully on the new
  framework.

  Note that this is not ready for prime-time, so I suggest you do this on a
  Kepler installation that you don't mind blowing up.  I find it easier to
  just run Eclipse on the new framework by launching a self-hosted Eclipse
  instance from your Eclipse workspace while you have the org.eclipse.osgi
  and org.eclipse.osgi.compatibility.state projects loaded.

  Tom



  Inactive hide details for Andrew Eisenberg ---03/08/2013 03:34:50 PM---Hi
  Tom, Thanks for taking a look at this.  AJDT is one oAndrew Eisenberg
  ---03/08/2013 03:34:50 PM---Hi Tom, Thanks for taking a look at this.
  AJDT is one of the main consumers

  From: Andrew Eisenberg <and...@eisenberg.as>
  To: Equinox development mailing list <equinox-dev@eclipse.org>,
  Date: 03/08/2013 03:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] IWeavingServiceFactory.createWeavingService
  takes a BundleDescription
  Sent by: equinox-dev-boun...@eclipse.org




  Hi Tom,

  Thanks for taking a look at this.  AJDT is one of the main consumers
  of org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.hook through the
  org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.aspectj bundle.  It looks like you have
  also updated the org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.aspectj bundle.  I will
  get a chance to try this out next week.  Just to be sure, if I check
  out this branch of equinox and drop the osgi bundle into Kepler, will
  things hang together?

  regards,
  Andrew

  On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Thomas Watson <tjwat...@us.ibm.com>
  wrote:
  > Keep in mind this is a discussion for Luna, not Kepler.  I have been
  > spending some time lately around the new framework implementation based
  on
  > the OSGi R5 generic capability/requirement model.
  >
  > I was looking at porting the Equinox weaving hooks
  > (org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.hook) over to a new Equinox framework
  > implementation that is based internally on the generic
  > capability/requirement model of the OSGi R5 specification.  This
  framework
  > implementation no longer is based on the old Equinox resolver API
  > (org.eclipse.osgi.service.resolver).  As such the weaving hook
  > implementation no longer has access to BundleDescription objects or a
  State
  > object at runtime.  Instead it would have access to
  > org.osgi.framework.wiring.BundleRevsion/BundleWiring objects.
  >
  > How disruptive would it be to make a breaking API change to
  > org.eclipse.equinox.service.weaving.IWeavingServiceFactory to take a
  > org.osgi.framework.wiring.BundleRevsion instead of the old
  > org.eclipse.osgi.service.resolver.BundleDescription and no longer take
  a
  > org.eclipse.osgi.service.resolver.State?
  >
  > I noticed the bundle org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.hook exports the
  package
  > org.eclipse.equinox.service.weaving with no version (defaulting to
  0.0.0).
  > For the next release I suggest we bump this version to 1.0.0 and
  indicate a
  > breaking change for implementors of
  > org.eclipse.equinox.service.weaving.IWeavingServiceFactory.  I'm not
  sure
  > how many others outside of the org.eclipse.equinox.weaving.aspectj
  bundle
  > implement this interface.  But without this type of change I see no way
  to
  > support Equinox Weaving on the new framework.  Beyond this I still want
  > someone to investigate moving as much of the Equiniox weaving hooks
  onto the
  > standard OSGi WeavingHook services [1].
  >
  > If you want to see the work I have done so far then load up the
  > twatson/container branches from both the rt.equinox.framework [2] and
  > rt.equinox.bundles [3] git repositories.  You should be able to
  self-host
  > Eclipse if you load up the framework project (org.eclipse.osg) and the
  > compatibility state project (org.eclipse.osgi.compatibility.state)
  which
  > provides an implementation of the old equinox PlatformAdmin/State
  mainly to
  > support PDE.  I have not done any testing of the weaving hook changes.
  I
  > only spent the morning getting rid of compile errors which pointed me
  to
  > this API issue with BundleDescription in the Equinox Weaving API.
  >
  > [1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=377422
  > [2]
  >
  
http://git.eclipse.org/c/equinox/rt.equinox.framework.git/log/?h=twatson/container

  > [3]
  >
  
http://git.eclipse.org/c/equinox/rt.equinox.bundles.git/log/?h=twatson/container

  >
  >
  > Tom
  >
  >
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