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Cary Cuyler- 55 -----Original Message----- From: Ercoupe Hangar Flying [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:00 AM To: Ercoupe Hangar Flying Subject: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- Message list: 1. [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying 2. [COUPERS-FLYIN] Flying Facts 3. [COUPERS-FLYIN] aircoupe.com domainname up for grabs 4. RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying 5. [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: List 6. [COUPERS-FLYIN] Old dogs 'n' young pups 7. [COUPERS-FLYIN] paint scheme program 8. Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] paint scheme program Messages: From: "Phil Bartlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ercoupe Hangar Flying" <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Phil Bartlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying > From: Darwin Girdauckis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Darwin Girdauckis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Old dogs 'n' young pups > > Well... We still got a few trickling in! > Darwin > > Warn Kitchen-24 > Dan Bass-27 > Tim Webb-33 > Andy Pomeroy-34 > Steven Coffee-35 > Robert Pionteck-40 > Tom Briggs-40 > David Snow-42 > Mitch Hines-42 > Kurt Jauss-43 > Lloyd-44 > Mark Brunettin-44 > Dan Hall-46 > Darwin Girdauckis-46 > Glen Davis-48 > Danny Rankovich-48 > Kevin Gassert-50 > Tommy Terry-50 > Ralph Finch-50 > Tony Thomas-51 > Marty Duke-52 > A J DeMarzo-52 > David Johnson-52 > Artie Langston-53 > Dwight Allenson-53 > John Landers-53 > Norm Lindstrom-53 > John Cuencas-54 > Ed burkhead-54 > Ron Lemons-54 > Larry Snider-54 > Darick Gundy-55 > Cal Griffis-56 > Bob Branch-57 > Ken Doyle-57 > Tony Van Kampen-58 > Jerry Eichenberger-58 > Jim Brennan-58 > Bill Wright-59 > Jeff Freeman-59 > Xen Portwood-59 > John Silberman-59 > Paul Laub-60 > Jim Palmer-60 > Vern Hendershott-60 > Joe M.-60 > Patrick Thompson-60 > Earl Johnson-61 > Jim Scoggins-62 > Syd Cohen-62 > Percy Wood-63 > William Jones-63 > Hammond Prescott-64 > Tony Crandell-64 > Richard Blair-64 > Bob Deaton-64 > Robert Steinman-64 > William R Bayne-64 > Jack Levering-65 > Lynn Nelson-65 > Bernie-66 > Don Abbott-66 > Paul Anton-67 > Joe czaplicki-67 > Charlie Eck- at least 67 (soloed in 47) > Sam Phillips-68 > Jim Slade-68 > Dave Smith-69 > Mynard Smith-69 > Jim Phelps-70 (soloed 1950) > Wes Sherman-70 > Dick Logston-70 > Harry Francis-71 > Wayne Woolard-71 > Dick Eddinger-71 > Dan Bowen-73 > Ron House-74 > Donald Perricone-74 > Allen Rothenberg-75 > Russel Whetton-75(soloed in 1947) > Ted Reusch-76(soloed at 16) > Bill Coons-78 > John Gelaci-79 > Frank Durgin-81 > Albert Barber-84 > Opal Walker-93 > Alan Fairclough-"older than dirt!" :) > > Better late than not at all. Old enough to know better, young enough to do it again. Phil Bartlett - 59 ---------------------------- From: "Richard R Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Richard R Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Flying Facts Hi 'Coupe Group: Sorry this is a tad long, but there may be a smile or two in it for you. Enjoy! Dick Hall The strength of the turbulence is directly proportional to the temperature of your coffee.--- Gunter's Second Law of Air Travel The three worst things to hear in the cockpit: The second officer says, "Damn it!" The first officer says, "I have an idea!" The captain say, "Hey, watch this!" "In the Alaska bush I'd rather have a two hour bladder and three hours of gas than vice versa."--- Kurt Wien Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just how in the world do you think it got to be this old? "Both optimists and pessimists contribute to the society. The optimist invents the aeroplane, the pessimist the parachute."--- George Bernard Shaw "The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are composed entirely of lost airline luggage."--- Mark Russell When asked why he was referred to as 'Ace': "Because during World War Two, I was responsible for the destruction of six aircraft, fortunately three were enemy." - Captain Ray Lancaster, USAAF. If helicopters are so safe, how come there are no vintage/classic helicopter fly-ins? - Anonymous Death is just nature's way of telling you to watch your airspeed. - Anonymous "I never liked riding in helicopters because there's a fair probability that the bottom part will get going around as fast as the top part."--- Lt. Col. John Wittenborn, USAFR. "When it comes to testing new aircraft or determining maximum performance, pilots like to talk about "pushing the envelope." They're talking about a two dimensional model: the bottom is zero altitude, the ground; the left is zero speed; the top is max altitude; and the right, maximum velocity, of course. So, the pilots are pushing that upper-right-hand corner of the envelope. What everybody tries not to dwell on is that that's where the postage gets canceled, too."--- Admiral Rick Hunter, U.S. Navy. "It only takes five years to go from rumor to standard operating procedure. - Dick Markgraf "Real planes use only a single stick to fly. This is why bulldozers & helicopters -- in that order -- need two." --- Paul Slattery "I've flown every seat on this airplane, can someone tell me why the other two are always occupied by idiots?" --- Don Taylor The only three things a wingman should ever say are: 1. Two's up. 2. You're on fire. 3. I'll take the ugly one. There are only three things the copilot should ever say: 1. Nice landing, Sir. 2. I'll buy the first round. 3. I'll take the ugly one. As a new copilot on a bomber I was told to say these three things and to otherwise keep my mouth shut and not touch anything: 1. Clear on the right. 2. Outer (marker) on the double (indicator) 3. I'll eat the chicken. (Crew meals consisted of one steak and one chicken to avoid possible food poisoning of the cockpit crew). 1. As an aviator in flight you can do anything you want... As long as it s right... And we'll let you know if it's right after you get down. 2. You can't fly forever without getting killed. 3. As a pilot only two bad things can happen to you and one of them will. a. One day you will walk out to the aircraft knowing that it is your last flight in an airplane. b. One day you will walk out to the airplane not knowing that it is your last flight in an airplane.. 4. Any flight over water in a single engine airplane will absolutely guarantee abnormal engine noises and vibrations. 5. There are Rules and there are Laws. The rules are made by men who think that they know better how to fly your airplane than you. Laws (of Physics) were made by the Great One. You can, and sometimes should, suspend the Rules but you can never suspend the Laws. 6. More about Rules: a. The rules are a good place to hide if you don't have a better idea and the talent to execute it. b. If you deviate from a rule, it must be a flawless performance. (e.g., If you fly under a bridge, don't hit the bridge.) 7. The pilot is the highest form of life on earth. 8. The ideal pilot is the perfect blend of discipline and aggressiveness. 9. About check rides: a. The only real objective of a check ride is to complete it and get the bastard out of your airplane. b. It has never occurred to any flight examiner that the examinee couldn't care less what the examiner's opinion of his flying ability really is. 10. The medical profession is the natural enemy of the aviation profession 11 The job of the Wing Commander is to worry incessantly that his career depends solely on the abilities of his aviators to fly their airplanes without mishap and that their only minuscule contribution to the effort is to bet their lives on it. 12. Ever notice that the only experts who decree that the age of the pilot is over are people who have never flown anything? Also, in spite of the intensity of their feelings that the pilot's day is over I know of no expert who has volunteered to be a passenger in a non-piloted aircraft. 13. It is absolutely imperative that the pilot be unpredictable. Rebelliousness is very predictable. In the end, conforming almost all the time is the best way to be unpredictable. 14. He who demands everything that his aircraft can give him is a pilot; he that demands more is a fool. 15. If you're gonna fly low, do not fly slow! ASW pilots know this only too well. 16. It is solely the pilot's responsibility to never let any other thing touch his aircraft. 17. If you can learn how to fly as a 2nd Lt and not forget how to fly by the time you're a Maj. you will have lived a happy life. 18. Night flying: a. Remember that the airplane doesn't know that it's dark. b. On a clear, moonless night, never fly between the tanker's lights. c. There are certain aircraft sounds that can only be heard at night. d. If you're going to night fly, it might as well be in the weather so you can double count your exposure to both hazards. e. Night formation is really an endless series of near misses in equilibrium with each other. f. You would have to pay a lot of money at a lot of amusement parks and perhaps add a few drugs, to get the same blend of psychedelic sensations as a single engine night weather flight. 19. One of the most important skills that a pilot must develop is the skill to ignore those things that were designed by non-pilots to get the pilot's attention. 20. At the end of the day, the controllers, ops supervisors, maintenance guys, weather guessers, and birds; they're all trying to kill you and your job is to not let them! 21. The concept of "controlling" airspace with radar is just a form of FAA sarcasm directed at pilots to see if they're gullible enough to swallow it. Or to put it another way, when's the last time the FAA ever shot anyone down? 22. Remember that the radio is only an electronic suggestion box for the pilot. Sometimes the only way to clear up a problem is to turn it off. 23. It is a tacit, yet profound admission of the preeminence of flying in the hierarchy of the human spirit, that those who seek to control aviators via threats always threaten to take one's wings and not one's life. 24. Remember when flying low and inverted that the rudder still works the same old way but hopefully your IP never taught you "pull stick back, plane go up". 25. Mastering the prohibited maneuvers in the Natops Manual is one of the best forms of aviation life insurance you can get. 26. A tactic done twice is a procedure. (Refer to unpredictability discussion above) 27. The aircraft G-limits are only there in case there is another flight by that particular airplane. If subsequent flights do not appear likely, there are no G-limits. 28. One of the beautiful things about a single piloted aircraft is the quality of the social experience. 29. If a mother has the slightest suspicion that her infant might grow up to be a pilot, she had better teach him to put things back where he got them 30. The ultimate responsibility of the pilot is to fulfill the dreams of the countless millions of earthbound ancestors who could only stare skyward ...and wish. ---------------------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] aircoupe.com domainname up for grabs As some of you may know I jumped ship and bought a bonanza about 2 years ago; sold my Aircoupe, and in the process my website aircoupe.com got a little stale, and is now going to expire completely. It'd be nice if an ercoupe enthusiast would take over the domainname rather than let it go to a porn site or something. It technically expired on the 22nd but still seems to be working, and I image the domainname will be available for registering soon. I did offer it to Univair for free about 2 years ago but they weren't interested.... There are numerous domain registration sites, register.com, godaddy.com, etc... P.S. If you're thinking of selling your aircoupe, think twice. I miss mine terribly. --Eric '55 B35 ---------------------------- From: "Joseph Czaplicki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Phil Bartlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ercoupe Hangar Flying" <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Joseph Czaplicki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: Digest list: Ercoupe Hangar Flying Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Old dogs 'n' young pups And the final score, represented by the following age groups is; Those in the 20s------------ 2% " 30s------------ 3% " 40s------------ 13% " 50s------------ 30% " 60s------------ 31% " 70s------------14% " 80s------------2% " 90s------------1% Funny thing, there are as many Coupers in their 80s as there are in their 20s. I guess the younger pups are being drawn to those plastic speed wagons and us old dogs know where the real fun is. JoeC 99621 ---------------------------- From: Darwin Girdauckis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Dick Chevalier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Reply-To: Darwin Girdauckis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Re: List Dick! Some of the guys were posting their age on the coupe list so I just started compiling it in one place so we could get an idea of how old the guys in the group are. There are a lot very old & very experienced pilots on this list! It makes me feel that my chioce of flying an ercoupe is a good one! Darwin Dick Chevalier wrote: > What's the list about? ---------------------------- From: Darwin Girdauckis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Reply-To: Darwin Girdauckis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Old dogs 'n' young pups Well... We still got a few trickling in! Darwin Warn Kitchen-24 Dan Bass-27 Tim Webb-33 Andy Pomeroy-34 Steven Coffee-35 Robert Pionteck-40 Tom Briggs-40 David Snow-42 Mitch Hines-42 Kurt Jauss-43 Lloyd-44 Mark Brunettin-44 Dan Hall-46 Darwin Girdauckis-46 Glen Davis-48 Danny Rankovich-48 Kevin Gassert-50 Tommy Terry-50 Ralph Finch-50 Tony Thomas-51 Marty Duke-52 A J DeMarzo-52 David Johnson-52 Artie Langston-53 Dwight Allenson-53 John Landers-53 Norm Lindstrom-53 John Cuencas-54 Ed burkhead-54 Ron Lemons-54 Larry Snider-54 Darick Gundy-55 Cal Griffis-56 Bob Branch-57 Ken Doyle-57 Tony Van Kampen-58 Jerry Eichenberger-58 Jim Brennan-58 Bill Wright-59 Jeff Freeman-59 Xen Portwood-59 John Silberman-59 Phil Bartlet-59 Paul Laub-60 Jim Palmer-60 Vern Hendershott-60 Joe M.-60 Patrick Thompson-60 Earl Johnson-61 Dallas Wilhelm-62 Jim Scoggins-62 Syd Cohen-62 Percy Wood-63 William Jones-63 Hammond Prescott-64 Tony Crandell-64 Richard Blair-64 Bob Deaton-64 Robert Steinman-64 William R Bayne-64 Jack Levering-65 Lynn Nelson-65 Bernie-66 Don Abbott-66 Bob Bullock-67(flying since 1957) Paul Anton-67 Joe czaplicki-67 Charlie Eck- at least 67 (soloed in 47) Sam Phillips-68 Jim Slade-68 Dave Smith-69 Mynard Smith-69 Jim Phelps-70 (soloed 1950) Wes Sherman-70 Dick Logston-70 Harry Francis-71 Wayne Woolard-71 Dick Eddinger-71 Dan Bowen-73 Ron House-74 Donald Perricone-74 Bill McNeeley-75 Allen Rothenberg-75 Russel Whetton-75(soloed in 1947) Ted Reusch-76(soloed at 16) Bill Coons-78 John Gelaci-79 Frank Durgin-81 Robert E. Lee II-82 Albert Barber-84 Opal Walker-93 Alan Fairclough-"older than dirt!" :) ---------------------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "William R. Bayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Robert Q. Steinman, PhD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,[EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Gassert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Jeff Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],earl johnson <jo Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] paint scheme program Guys I have some more info about the paint scheme program. After playing with it a little, I discovered that the program, as it stands, allows you to change the colors of the wings, fuselage, spinner and tail section. If you want to get fancier than that, say, for example, add a stripe, or an N number, or a two toned cowling, you have to take the model 3D model of the Ercoupe that William is making for us and import it into a "painting" program. Microsoft Paint (MSPAINT) comes with most PC computers and is free. I have tried it and with a little practice, is was able to customize a paint scheme with strips and curves shapes. It took me about an hour to figure it all out. So, the bottom line is the program we bought is great for the basics, but if you want to get more involve with the design, you will have to use MSPAINT or another paint program of your choice. If anyone wants out because of this, please send me an email now...no hard feelings...I'm still delighted what William is providing for $10 a head! Glen Davis CFII Grumman Tiger N70GD 1946 Ercoupe N3103H |-----| _________(*)_________ o o o ---------------------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] paint scheme program the way I read the e-mail was that you need 10 for the $100 at $10 each and if others wanted to download it they could for an additional $10. I thought I would wait till it was finished and then maybe get it for the additional $10 but if you need another person for the original 10 people ( if someone drops out ) then let me know. TIM WEBB 1946 C ---------------------------- ========================================================================== == == To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/ ========================================================================== ==== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/
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