Link to classified page on EOC web site. You can call it a swap page 
if you like.

http://www.ercoupe.org/classifieds.asp


Kevin

--- In [email protected], "mbpowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It's all about competition and in one case - foreign competition. 
> 
> If Coupe Capers is going to be the viable publication we want it to 
> be, they are going to have to get with it. I think most people 
would 
> like to submit their project/repair photos to CC but they seem 
> unresponsive. They could have promoted a swap page. They could send 
> out emails soliciting material - I have yet to receive a single 
email 
> from them. They could farm out some of the work to trusted 
> individuals for emailing or web page updating. Story opportunites 
> abound. Winter is here. What weight of oil is best for cold 
weather? 
> How much of the front cowl opening should be covered or AL plate vs 
> duct tape?
> The list of possible news stories is almost endless. 
> 
> Many changes are possible and easily done if CC is willing to do 
> them.\
> 
> Mike @C35. 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "AJ DeMarzo" <noshitoal@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I don't mind replying to this, it's a good and valid opinion, and 
> since this is supposed to be a discussion group discussing, let's 
> discuss.
> > 
> > Everyone's input here is valuable to me, whether they agree with 
my 
> thoughts or not.  I like to think that I can look and learn and 
have 
> the ability to grow, meaning accept changes and see and accept 
errors 
> on my part, so thanks Syd, Jerry, Mark and the others.  
> > 
> > I'm sorry, Bud, I don't understand your first paragraph.  Are you 
> saying that since people have chosen to participate here (the only 
> group for Coupes of it's kind on the internet) they've made the 
> decision that this should be the only source of info they should 
> refer to?
> > 
> > Let's hope everyone knows more people off this list than the few 
> who post, and it would be wise to realize that what's tossed around 
> here needs to be validated.  Many still would like to see the 
ideas, 
> whatever they state, and ultimately when it comes to mechanicals, 
> their own A&P's should have the ability to know right from wrong.  
My 
> own A&P is a Top Dog with Bell Helicopter and he's always learning 
> things from me due to my experience with Bonanzas.  Does that mean 
I 
> know more than he?  Absolutely not, but he gets the input he needs 
to 
> make decisions.
> > 
> > Everything technical should be directed to EOC technical people?  
> Why?  Are there no other people qualified to answer any technical 
> questions about the Ercoupe?  When I have a question about a 
> Continental engine, (they're in Ercoupes) I have the ability to ask 
> one of Continental's retired technical engineers (35 years 
> w/Continental) and who now runs his own shop in MO.  Are you saying 
> he's not a good source because he's not EOC?  Come on, get real!
> > 
> > I'll agree that most of the knowledgeable folks in EOC are not 
> posting on the list.  Our loss.  Ed, go on out there and see if you 
> can let them know how much fun it is to be here and how much 
> knowledge they can pass to others that need the info about their 
> hobby!
> > 
> > Don't underestimate yourself, Mark.  Everyone's knowledge is 
> limited but in your area of expertise, you are a Jedi Knight!  If 
> you're too tired to participate it's our loss.  I also think that 
you 
> are the type of person who will react when seeing something posted 
> that is a wrong or dangerous practice.  In your position with EOC, 
> participation would show that the club does care about a person or 
a 
> prospect whether or not they kick in $30 and keep their mouths shut 
> about needed changes.  It's your choice to not let folks know if 
> they're wasting money on an item or should be looking in another 
> direction for a product.  We respect that.
> > 
> > Are you sure the comments about the newsletter are directed at 
the 
> lack of content?  Could it possibly be something else?  I don't 
> comment on it because I don't get it so I don't know.  The fact 
that 
> there are so many things mentioned would be a red flag to me.  
During 
> this few-day discussion that is interpreted by some as a bash, I've 
> found out that many articles are submitted and never printed. No 
> reasons, no input.  Maybe they're bad?  I've also found 
> that "Attaboys" are literally non existent.  Not necessarily a bad 
> thing, but not a wise thing either.  Those who submit articles are 
> not looking for a publication reference to use to obtain their 
PhD's, 
> they sincerely want to help the community.  
> > 
> > I agree that things should be sent in to EOC, probably 
everything!  
> I can't tell you about Hartmut's site, but when folks want to sell 
or 
> buy, they'll use my site mainly because it's current and fresh.  I 
> don't charge anything even though it costs about $700 to $1000 a 
year 
> to maintain and the ads go back a long way.  Can the building and 
> maintenance of the Swap Page be interpreted as my way of helping 
the 
> community or do I have to be a member of EOC to have that 
validated?  
> Sorry, I just thought about that and it pissed me off! 
> > 
> > Agree that activities should be given to EOC.  Plan them in 
advance 
> and get the word out!  The internet is faster which opens another 
> opportunity that is being missed, IMO.
> > 
> > I'll disagree about the problem/solution thing.  The problems are 
> many and including the inability of the EOC to communicate on the 
> level that has become the norm in today's times and their 
historical 
> unwillingness to make changes necessary to get them out of the 
> 1950's, and finally the again historical practice of interpreting 
> constructive criticism as an attempt to overthrow the power base.  
> This time it really is "NO SHIT, AL", statement.  What is promising 
> though is that everything can be fixed. What's puzzling is that 
there 
> seems to be something preventing those changes from occurring.  
> Therein lies my biggest peeve.  Not a who, not a what, but a why?  
> Can you really answer that for me?
> > 
> > Mark's comment about becoming a member is correct.  I have yet to 
> see anyone ever on this discussion list try to convince anyone 
> otherwise.  If they did, let me know about it, I'd like to address 
it 
> with that individual, and I have with some.
> > 
> > Mark's next recommendation is surely a sad one and I can't be 
> interpreting it as it appears written.  Communication is the key to 
> society's growth.  Why would anyone not want to grow?  Rewrite that 
> one, bud.  Show your not the person who could say such a thing.
> > 
> > Mark's hopefully not really done here, and he's indicated that he 
> signed up some new blood.  I sincerely hope that our lively 
> discussion has spurred that interest in the organization.
> > 
> > Over to you - anyone!
> > 
> > Al DeMarzo
> > Visit the Ercoupe Swap Page - Free and Easy
> > http://www.ercoupeowners.com/swap/swapbook.htm
> >    
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: pq13@ 
> >   To: [email protected] 
> >   Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:38 PM
> >   Subject: [ercoupe-flyin] WE SUPPORT EOC
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   WELL SPOKEN SYD, 
> >   WELL SPOKEN JERRY E., 
> > 
> >   In answer to AL Demarzo.
> > 
> >   I prefer to not share info on this list, not because of 
liability 
> issues, ( I am an IA, CFI ) 
> >   But because of  the reasons already expressed on this list  - 
Why 
> Join the EOC - you get what you need here...  Guess You don't need 
> the knowledge bank that the EOC. has - you have all you need right 
> here. 
> > 
> >   GUESS WHAT FOLKS ... I know more people off this list than on, 
> >   YOU ARE GETTING SOME GOOD, and SOME BAD INFO
> > 
> >   Everything Technical should be directed to the EOC. technical 
> people. 
> > 
> >   Most of the most knowledgable folks in the EOC are not on this 
> list. 
> > 
> >   My Knowledge limited to what it is, and is shared with most 
> anyone, most of the time - Why would I want to type ALL day, My 
time 
> is valuable, believe it or not, 
> > 
> >   I believe that if you ercoupe owners club members want a better 
> newsletter with better content. then SUBMIT IT TO COUPE CAPERS for 
> publication.
> > 
> >    .....You send it to Hartmut's website and Al 's Swap-page  WHY 
> NOT TO COUPE CAPERS. 
> > 
> >   FLY-Ins or OUTs - SUBMIT IT TO COUPE CAPERS. 
> > 
> >   If you haven't then you are a part of the problem and not part 
of 
> the solution.
> > 
> >   I recommend that if you want help with your plane, Technical 
> advice, Fix It tips, or just Dumb Questions. ( PS: there are not 
> any ) Become a member, submit, get to know Your SOCIAL Circle. and 
> then you have a strong club Cause NO SHIT AL ,. A club is made up 
of 
> its members. Members make the club what it is.
> > 
> >   IMHO: 
> >   THOSE PPL ON THIS LIST WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE EOC.- SHUT UP - 
> SAVE YOUR FINGERS- LET THEM JOIN IF THEY WANT HELP& ADVICE.
> > 
> >   I'm done here 
> > 
> >   Have fun kids
> > 
> >   Mark Hardin 
> >   Terrell Tx. 
> > 
> >   PS. JUST SIGNED UP 3 NEW MEMBERS, 
> >   THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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