Dan, Syd, & all Just FYI - All of Region 7's email newsletters are sent to Carolyn & Skip for their use in Coupe Capers.
Dan N3968H @ CNO in SoCal ----- Original Message ----- From: Syd Cohen Cc: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [ercoupe-flyin] Re: WE SUPPORT EOC Dan and all, Submit articles to Carolyn Carden, Editor, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Syd Dan Caliendo wrote: Who do we contact about submitting something to be inclucded in coupe capers? Dan On Jan 3, 2008, at 9:07 AM, mbpowell wrote: It's all about competition and in one case - foreign competition. If Coupe Capers is going to be the viable publication we want it to be, they are going to have to get with it. I think most people would like to submit their project/repair photos to CC but they seem unresponsive. They could have promoted a swap page. They could send out emails soliciting material - I have yet to receive a single email from them. They could farm out some of the work to trusted individuals for emailing or web page updating. Story opportunites abound. Winter is here. What weight of oil is best for cold weather? How much of the front cowl opening should be covered or AL plate vs duct tape? The list of possible news stories is almost endless. Many changes are possible and easily done if CC is willing to do them.\ Mike @C35. --- In [email protected], "AJ DeMarzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't mind replying to this, it's a good and valid opinion, and since this is supposed to be a discussion group discussing, let's discuss. > > Everyone's input here is valuable to me, whether they agree with my thoughts or not. I like to think that I can look and learn and have the ability to grow, meaning accept changes and see and accept errors on my part, so thanks Syd, Jerry, Mark and the others. > > I'm sorry, Bud, I don't understand your first paragraph. Are you saying that since people have chosen to participate here (the only group for Coupes of it's kind on the internet) they've made the decision that this should be the only source of info they should refer to? > > Let's hope everyone knows more people off this list than the few who post, and it would be wise to realize that what's tossed around here needs to be validated. Many still would like to see the ideas, whatever they state, and ultimately when it comes to mechanicals, their own A&P's should have the ability to know right from wrong. My own A&P is a Top Dog with Bell Helicopter and he's always learning things from me due to my experience with Bonanzas. Does that mean I know more than he? Absolutely not, but he gets the input he needs to make decisions. > > Everything technical should be directed to EOC technical people? Why? Are there no other people qualified to answer any technical questions about the Ercoupe? When I have a question about a Continental engine, (they're in Ercoupes) I have the ability to ask one of Continental's retired technical engineers (35 years w/Continental) and who now runs his own shop in MO. Are you saying he's not a good source because he's not EOC? Come on, get real! > > I'll agree that most of the knowledgeable folks in EOC are not posting on the list. Our loss. Ed, go on out there and see if you can let them know how much fun it is to be here and how much knowledge they can pass to others that need the info about their hobby! > > Don't underestimate yourself, Mark. Everyone's knowledge is limited but in your area of expertise, you are a Jedi Knight! If you're too tired to participate it's our loss. I also think that you are the type of person who will react when seeing something posted that is a wrong or dangerous practice. In your position with EOC, participation would show that the club does care about a person or a prospect whether or not they kick in $30 and keep their mouths shut about needed changes. It's your choice to not let folks know if they're wasting money on an item or should be looking in another direction for a product. We respect that. > > Are you sure the comments about the newsletter are directed at the lack of content? Could it possibly be something else? I don't comment on it because I don't get it so I don't know. The fact that there are so many things mentioned would be a red flag to me. During this few-day discussion that is interpreted by some as a bash, I've found out that many articles are submitted and never printed. No reasons, no input. Maybe they're bad? I've also found that "Attaboys" are literally non existent. Not necessarily a bad thing, but not a wise thing either. Those who submit articles are not looking for a publication reference to use to obtain their PhD's, they sincerely want to help the community. > > I agree that things should be sent in to EOC, probably everything! I can't tell you about Hartmut's site, but when folks want to sell or buy, they'll use my site mainly because it's current and fresh. I don't charge anything even though it costs about $700 to $1000 a year to maintain and the ads go back a long way. Can the building and maintenance of the Swap Page be interpreted as my way of helping the community or do I have to be a member of EOC to have that validated? Sorry, I just thought about that and it pissed me off! > > Agree that activities should be given to EOC. Plan them in advance and get the word out! The internet is faster which opens another opportunity that is being missed, IMO. > > I'll disagree about the problem/solution thing. The problems are many and including the inability of the EOC to communicate on the level that has become the norm in today's times and their historical unwillingness to make changes necessary to get them out of the 1950's, and finally the again historical practice of interpreting constructive criticism as an attempt to overthrow the power base. This time it really is "NO SHIT, AL", statement. What is promising though is that everything can be fixed. What's puzzling is that there seems to be something preventing those changes from occurring. Therein lies my biggest peeve. Not a who, not a what, but a why? Can you really answer that for me? > > Mark's comment about becoming a member is correct. I have yet to see anyone ever on this discussion list try to convince anyone otherwise. If they did, let me know about it, I'd like to address it with that individual, and I have with some. > > Mark's next recommendation is surely a sad one and I can't be interpreting it as it appears written. Communication is the key to society's growth. Why would anyone not want to grow? Rewrite that one, bud. Show your not the person who could say such a thing. > > Mark's hopefully not really done here, and he's indicated that he signed up some new blood. I sincerely hope that our lively discussion has spurred that interest in the organization. > > Over to you - anyone! > > Al DeMarzo > Visit the Ercoupe Swap Page - Free and Easy > http://www.ercoupeowners.com/swap/swapbook.htm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:38 PM > Subject: [ercoupe-flyin] WE SUPPORT EOC > > > > WELL SPOKEN SYD, > WELL SPOKEN JERRY E., > > In answer to AL Demarzo. > > I prefer to not share info on this list, not because of liability issues, ( I am an IA, CFI ) > But because of the reasons already expressed on this list - Why Join the EOC - you get what you need here... Guess You don't need the knowledge bank that the EOC. has - you have all you need right here. > > GUESS WHAT FOLKS ... I know more people off this list than on, > YOU ARE GETTING SOME GOOD, and SOME BAD INFO > > Everything Technical should be directed to the EOC. technical people. > > Most of the most knowledgable folks in the EOC are not on this list. > > My Knowledge limited to what it is, and is shared with most anyone, most of the time - Why would I want to type ALL day, My time is valuable, believe it or not, > > I believe that if you ercoupe owners club members want a better newsletter with better content. then SUBMIT IT TO COUPE CAPERS for publication. > > .....You send it to Hartmut's website and Al 's Swap-page WHY NOT TO COUPE CAPERS. > > FLY-Ins or OUTs - SUBMIT IT TO COUPE CAPERS. > > If you haven't then you are a part of the problem and not part of the solution. > > I recommend that if you want help with your plane, Technical advice, Fix It tips, or just Dumb Questions. ( PS: there are not any ) Become a member, submit, get to know Your SOCIAL Circle. and then you have a strong club Cause NO SHIT AL ,. A club is made up of its members. Members make the club what it is. > > IMHO: > THOSE PPL ON THIS LIST WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE EOC.- SHUT UP - SAVE YOUR FINGERS- LET THEM JOIN IF THEY WANT HELP& ADVICE. > > I'm done here > > Have fun kids > > Mark Hardin > Terrell Tx. > > PS. JUST SIGNED UP 3 NEW MEMBERS, > THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1208 - Release Date: 1/3/2008 3:52 PM
