I'm a bit disappointed by Syd's comments regarding the en-masse arrivals especially because he's such a key part of that airshow. What you should know is that last year we safely landed and exited 100 Bonanza's in about 10 minutes. With the normal flow and status quo, 10 minutes lands about 15 airplanes on the dots many doing the dangerous slow flight dance and a few others going around. How long would it take to land 100 Bonanzas with everyone cutting in line and disregarding the tower instruction?
And by the way, we ALL have to have the arrival procedures (available through EAA NOW) on board in case there are difficulties with the flight, so Syd's recommendation for everyone to use the Fisk arrival is proper. I asked for last year's letter of rebuttal to an individual who saw it fit to publicly complain to the EAA that he was delayed an hour. I'll post it when it arrives because it was well done and explains the procedure fully. Until then here's a reply from another Bonanza owner when I made the query. "I just received the printed Oshkosh NOTAM in yesterday's mail from the EAA. On page 28 there is a Section "Large Formation Arrivals" that explains the mass arrivals increase efficiency but the last sentence reads "Other traffic using the Fisk VFR arrival to Oshkosh may be paused during these large formation arrivals." I'm afraid the readers of this section will not understand the significance of the increase of efficiency of a large formation arrival but will be unhappy with the possible "pausing" of the VFR arrivals. Note this "pausing" only will occur in certain wind conditions which would preclude the use of runways 36L and 36R or possibly 18L and 18R for the large formation arrival, while the VFR arrivals can continue simultaneously on the east west runway." Enjoy OSH, fly safely and don't forget the sunscreen and camera and if you're lucky I'll buy you a beer! Al DeMarzo Visit the Ercoupe Swap Page Free, Easy and No Membership Required http://www.ercoupeowners.com/swap/swapbook.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Syd Cohen Cc: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [ercoupe-flyin] Re: Oshkosh 2008 Right. None of them mentioned Ercoupes because I never use the "sanitized airspace" procedure that the Mooneys, Bonanzas, etc. use. We just come in using the normal Fisk arrival procedure. There are 2 reasons for this: 1. I want all the Ercoupers to experience the normal Fisk arrival procedure so if they ever want to come to AirVenture on their own, not in our flight, they know what to expect. 2. I really think it's unfair that the Mooneys, etc. are able to totally disrupt the inbound traffic for their arrival. All inbounds are shut off and told to go elsewhere or hold for about an hour while they make their grand arrival. We just blend into the flow of inbounds. I thought of a third reason yesterday, but can't think of it now (getting old). Anyway, that's why we're not mentioned. Syd kgassert wrote: There seems to be a lot of press on various groups doing group flights into OSH this years yet none of them mentioned Ercoupes. Kevin1 --- In [email protected], Syd Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > See? I told you this is the Year of the Ercoupe at AirVenture. > > Syd > > > > ght28 wrote: > > > Hey folks, > > > > Check out the header photo on the Oshkosh 2008 home > > page. > > > > http://www.airventure.org/ <http://www.airventure.org/> > > > > Spook > > > > >
