I have listenend to both sides and you both have it wrong. I am English and I have lived in this country since 87 so I have lived under both systems. Both systems have their good points but I think the system in this country is much worse. No one in England is denied service. It may not be that you are not seen quite as quick as you are in the States but of course your immediate service here involves numerous tests to not help you but to cover the hospitals ass when one of the hospital chasing lawyers decides you and of course he, can get rich because of -- what ever he can dream up. By the time you finally get the treatment you need that guy in England has gone home after having the treatment that he needed and other than the terrible tax he pays for it he is well and does not have to worry about going into bankruptcy-. You have wonderful medicine,if you can afford it or if you have a wonderful LOL insurance company which will not reject everything at least once.-- So, go on, perhaps the Government will bail out the insurance companies or perhaps all the legal beagals that pray on our lives. As for me, I am older than dirt and I can afford to pay for my treatment but I am in the minority. Will your kids be so lucky? Chrissie Farthing On Fri, 7/24/09, Art Langston <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Art Langston <[email protected]> Subject: Re: {Disarmed} [ercoupe-flyin] Social systems Was: Model C or D To: Cc: [email protected] Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 10:04 PM Well, very respectfully, If conservatives get to call universal health care "socialized medicine," I guess I get to call private health care "soulless vampires making money off human suffering-ism." It used to be that there some services and institutions like hospitals, the fire and police departments were so vital to our nation they were exempt from market pressures, and it wasn't called "socialism". When did that become the new patriotism? Ask not what you could do for your country, ask what's in it for Blue Cross/Blue Shield? The problem with President Obama's health care plan isn't socialism, it's capitalism. Because medicine is for-profit we have things like "recision," where insurance companies hire lots of people to figure out ways to deny you coverage when you get sick, even though you've been paying into your plan for years. When I was a kid, if you broke your leg leg playing ball, your parents took you to the local Catholic hospital, the nun put a thermometer in your mouth, the doctor slapped some plaster on your ankle and you were done. The bill was $1.50, plus you got to keep the thermometer. Your folks didn't have to file bankruptcy or sell your house because you got hurt playing ball. Then, some Wall Street wizard decided that hospitals could be big business, so now they're run by bean counters in some corporate plaza. In the U.S. today, three giant for-profit conglomerates own close to 600 hospitals and other health care facilities. America's largest hospital chain, HCA, was founded by the family of Bill Frist, who perfectly represents the Republican attitude toward health care: it's not a right, it's a racket. The more people who get sick and need medicine, the higher their profit margins, so forget preventative care. But what can we expect in an age where war profiteering is no longer treated as a scandal and treasonous, but business as usual? Well, last comment from me. Time to end this and get back to Ercoupes. :-) Art N2666H ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
