We'd end up with a much better system if we let patients & doctors
from England, France, Canada, and United States
design the system. Letting politicians, lawyers, pharmaceutical
industryand insurance industry do it is not going to give you a good
system.
Believe it or not, the patients and doctors are on the same side with
a few bad apples in each barrel.
Dan c
On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:40 PM, Chrissie Farthing wrote:
I have listenend to both sides and you both have it wrong. I am
English and I have lived in this country since 87 so I have lived
under both systems. Both systems have their good points but I
think the system in this country is much worse. No one in England
is denied service. It may not be that you are not seen quite as
quick as you are in the States but of course your immediate service
here involves numerous tests to not help you but to cover the
hospitals ass when one of the hospital chasing lawyers decides you
and of course he, can get rich because of -- what ever he can dream
up. By the time you finally get the treatment you need that guy in
England has gone home after having the treatment that he needed
and other than the terrible tax he pays for it he is well and does
not have to worry about going into bankruptcy-. You have wonderful
medicine,if you can afford it or if you have a wonderful LOL
insurance company which will not reject everything at least once.--
So, go on, perhaps the Government will bail out the insurance
companies or perhaps all the legal beagals that pray on our lives.
As for me, I am older than dirt and I can afford to pay for my
treatment but I am in the minority. Will your kids be so lucky?
Chrissie Farthing
On Fri, 7/24/09, Art Langston <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Art Langston <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} [ercoupe-flyin] Social systems Was: Model C
or D
To:
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 10:04 PM
Well, very respectfully, If conservatives get to call universal health
care "socialized medicine," I guess I get to call private health care
"soulless vampires making money off human suffering-ism." It used
to be
that there some services and institutions like hospitals, the fire and
police departments were so vital to our nation they were exempt from
market pressures, and it wasn't called "socialism". When did that
become the new patriotism? Ask not what you could do for your country,
ask what's in it for Blue Cross/Blue Shield?
The problem with President Obama's health care plan isn't socialism,
it's capitalism. Because medicine is for-profit we have things like
"recision," where insurance companies hire lots of people to figure
out
ways to deny you coverage when you get sick, even though you've been
paying into your plan for years.
When I was a kid, if you broke your leg leg playing ball, your
parents
took you to the local Catholic hospital, the nun put a thermometer in
your mouth, the doctor slapped some plaster on your ankle and you were
done. The bill was $1.50, plus you got to keep the thermometer. Your
folks didn't have to file bankruptcy or sell your house because you
got
hurt playing ball.
Then, some Wall Street wizard decided that hospitals could be big
business, so now they're run by bean counters in some corporate plaza.
In the U.S. today, three giant for-profit conglomerates own close
to 600
hospitals and other health care facilities. America's largest hospital
chain, HCA, was founded by the family of Bill Frist, who perfectly
represents the Republican attitude toward health care: it's not a
right,
it's a racket. The more people who get sick and need medicine, the
higher their profit margins, so forget preventative care.
But what can we expect in an age where war profiteering is no longer
treated as a scandal and treasonous, but business as usual?
Well, last comment from me. Time to end this and get back to
Ercoupes. :-)
Art
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