Bill:" Is it because the suction affecting the right tank, through the cracked 
flange, is more than the fuel pump's suction can overcome?"

 

Hartmut: I think the suction of the pump was good enough as long as there was 
something to suck.

When your left tank showed empty, the tank and the tanks interconnecting fuel 
lines where empty. The only remaining fuel was slowly pulled over into the 
right tank and held there due to the suction. Now not much was left for the 
pump to get. It received maybe a mix of air and fuel, thus showing only a slow 
sinking float.

 

However. Question now is ho are you going to repair this crack?

 

In our wing tanks the fittings are riveted from inside as is the filler neck. 
One needs to disassemble the whole tank to replace that neck. Maybe you can get 
away with stop drilling the crack and then sealing it with pro-seal...

 

Hartmut
 


To: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:12:41 +0000
Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Fuel Siphoning Issue

  



First, the particulars about my plane:
415-C, S/N 4313
9 gallon aluminum wing tanks, vented caps
Skyport Rain-pruf nose tank guage, vented
fuel pump is less than one year old, and has about 15 hours on it. 

Bear with me for the background.

Went flying yesterday and my passenger noticed fuel siphoning around the cap on 
the right wing tank, about 15 minutes after takeoff. (The wing tanks were about 
3/4 full, and the fuel level was the same on each side before takeoff.)

I did a 180 to return to the airport and, as we were on our way there, I 
noticed that the gauge in the left wing tank had dropped to "0". Then, a few 
minutes later, the nose tank float gauge (a Skyport Rain-pruf version) started 
dropping: not drastically, but definitely noticeable. Shortly before we got 
back to the airport, the siphoning had stopped, but the left tank gauge still 
read "0". After we landed and were taxiing in, the nose tank float gauge 
gradually returned to the "Full" mark on the glass tube.

We parked on the ramp and started investigating the problem. We noticed that 
the fuel levels in the wing tanks had stabilized and were again equal (but down 
to about 1/2 full after the flight and the fuel siphoning).

I thought I had a cap-sealing problem on the right tank. Not so: the problem 
was the tank filler neck flange, which was cracked about a third of the way 
around its circumference. The fuel was siphoning in the small area between the 
outer edge of the cap gasket and the upper skin of the tanks. In flight, it 
looks like it's coming out from under the gasket. The crack isn't visible from 
the top: you need a mirror in the fuel filler hole, and a flashlight.

OK, so that's the story. But I'm puzzled. I understand that the fuel will 
siphon because there is a pressure differential between the tanks, as a result 
of the crack. Low-pressure area and all that. But what I don't understand is, 
Why would the nose tank level drop? After all, there was still plenty of fuel 
in the right tank ("pulled" over there from the left tank by the pressure 
differential.) Is it because the suction affecting the right tank, through the 
cracked flange, is more than the fuel pump's suction can overcome?

Thanks for listening!

Bill T.









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