One of the disadvantages of deleting the message (or part of the message) responded to is unavailability of applicable context. Here is the information from my earlier post (pertaining to the earlier, non-aerodynamic trim system installed in Ercoupes Serials 213 thru 1622):

"Don's trim system is discussed at length in Ercoupe Service Memorandum No. 19 of 4/26/46 (date from ESM No. 38). It says: "...the natural trim speed in a glide with the controls and trim device disconnected is now approximately 70 mph, a speed at which the airplane can be maneuvered to a satisfactory landing by throttle alone".

Was it this ERCO information or some other information where you believe I pointed "...out that this should be something controllable"?

WRB

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----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Burkhead
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] trim tab requirements

On 2010-08-30 6:04 AM, John Cooper wrote:

OK, then why did Erco require the trim tab when installing the C-85 if
it is not necessary? For that matter, why did they introduce it at all?

That was the time period when the FAA (and the industry) were realizing it was a darn good idea to have a backup system for all essential controls.

The rudders act as a backup system to the ailerons. On most aircraft, the ailerons can do their job without the rudders (though sloppily).

If the elevator cable(s) break, the spring trim system provides no backup at all. You are dependent on the plane's natural pitch stability and trim with a loose elevator. Bill points out that this should be something controllable. Me, I don't know.

However, with the aerodynamic trim tab, the plane should remain controllable in pitch and airspeed sufficient to make a walk-away landing. With a skilled pilot, the aerodynamic trim should let you get down undamaged.

Ed

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