On Nov 30, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Anton Yatsenko wrote: > In case I've missed point — sorry.
There are several points. How one gets the Globalization "module" is one, but the bigger points at issue involve API parameterization, overhead, and style issues. /be > > Anton. > > On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Brendan Eich wrote: > >> On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Luke Hoban wrote: >> >>>> Speaking on behalf of real world web developers, the opposition to >>>> "Globalization" is that it's unnecessarily long. This is a long standing >>>> problem with APIs that are designed by people that don't have to use them >>>> everyday. >>> >>> Agreed - a shorter name would be better - but the alternative being >>> discussed here is not a shorter name - it's this tradeoff: >>> >>> "Globalization" vs. "Object.System.loaded['@globalization']" >> >> As I just suggested in reply to Rick, I think micro-optimizing here for >> brevity is not the main thing. Most developers will want the Date.prototype, >> etc. extensions -- easy to use and better-localizable methods. >> >> All the full-metal OOP APIs for amortizing collator construction costs, >> etc., will be used less frequently, even if by some big web app properties. >> >> /be >> >> >>> >>> That is, the alternative here is 3 times as long as the already >>> 'unnecessarily long' option. As Brendan noted, we still need to do the API >>> design on the system module loader to try to streamline this - but the >>> design space currently being explored won't lead to this being shorter than >>> "Globalization", so the length argument by itself would seem to favor a >>> single global name. >>> >>> There was an earlier thread discussing alternatives to "Globalization", >>> several of which are shorter and may be appropriate choices instead. >>> >>> Luke >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> es-discuss mailing list >> es-discuss@mozilla.org >> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss > _______________________________________________ es-discuss mailing list es-discuss@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss
