Domenic Denicola wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Andreas Rossberg [mailto:rossb...@google.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 11:31

On 6 December 2012 16:44, Domenic Denicola
<dome...@domenicdenicola.com>  wrote:
For the record, here's the idea Yehuda and I worked out:

https://gist.github.com/1ab3f0daa7b37859ce43

I would *really* appreciate if people read it (it's easy reading, I
promise!) and incorporated some of our concerns and ideas into their
thinking on module syntax.
However, the more radical parts of your proposal (allowing arbitrary export 
expressions, and arbitrary import patterns) do not work.

The problem is that imports are not normal variable assignments. They do not 
copy values, like normal destructuring, they are aliasing bindings! If you were 
to allow arbitrary expressions and patterns, then this would imply aliasing of 
arbitrary object properties. Not only is this a completely new feature, it also 
is rather questionable -- the aliased location might disappear, because objects 
are mutable.

Thanks for the feedback Andreas; this is really helpful. It took me a while to 
figure out what you meant by this, but I think I understand now. However, I 
think that since the bindings are const bindings, the difference between 
copying and aliasing is unobservable—is that right? Thus the mental model could 
be copying in all cases, both top-level and deeper.

I think the symmetry I am looking for is that

import { x: [a, b], f } from "foo";

should work the same as

import foo from "foo";
const { x: [a, b], f } = foo;

No, afaicr that was not the idea, see below.

And I realize the linked gist does not introduce const bindings, but instead 
let bindings; that's easy enough to fix if it's the right path forward.

You could also consider imports always meaning copying, but then you exporting 
a variable will no longer be useful.

This is the part that made me question whether I understand what you're saying. What do you mean by 
"exporting a variable" and "useful"?

The part about "exporting a variable" is in fact explaining that it is not about const as you noted above (cp in unix PoV), but really copy of the binding (ln in unix PoV).

That is, when you in "foo"

  export let FOO = 42;

and do

  import { foo } from "foo";

in two places, then "foo = -1;" in one place means it is -1 in all other places as well.

I am right in what Andreas meant, then it leads me to the question: is it really meant to be that way? Isn't copying the value (used all over in the language) better way? If I want a shareable value, I export an object that has it as a property. Should export and import be by-reference?

Herby
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