On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Brendan Eich <bren...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> Edward O'Connor wrote: > >> Perhaps TC39 should consider adopting a similar policy. >> > > Policy, schmolicy :-P. > > (Presumably clocks with deadlines are required; consensus could break > afterwards, in spite of the formal rules.) > > Let's let our hair down a bit and get real here. We did not "declare > consensus" Thursday last week, in any formal or informal fashion. We knew > Andreas wasn't there. We heard his position articulated by Sam (who dialed > in). We knew most of what we now know. > > At this point we must forge async consensus. Is Andreas and anyone else > (I'm not singling him out; I sympathize and started on his/Sam's/Kevin's > "side" earlier last week) objecting doing so in a consensus-breaking way, > for sure? We should async-check this. > > Often one objects or finds a survivable fault in a consensus position, and > works to persuade others to overcome it. Sometimes this leads to > minimization (and over-minimization) and deferment of troublesome but > important bits (@medikoo on twitter reminds me we dropped .done after > June's big thread -- a semi-consensus deferment, I found from (re-)reading > a bunch of messages). > > If we really have broken consensus in the async sense, we will have to > back up to Kevin's fixup of AP2, as Mark suggests. I have no idea how this > will shake out. > > I'd rather we keep separate and conflict-prone APIs in separate objects, > though. I'd rather we acknowledge that Promises are a library de-facto > quasi-standard we are trying to codify, not green-field work where we can > start over or "do both". > Excited to hear someone else recognize this reality. > Is any of this persuasive to anyone? Dunno, you tell me. If DOM only > wanted .then/.resolve, you should join my "realist" camp :-P. > > /be > > _______________________________________________ > es-discuss mailing list > es-discuss@mozilla.org > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >
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