On 27 July 2017 at 14:23, Mark <m...@heyimmark.com> wrote:

>
> if Joe User observes that a website suddenly got notably slower with a new
> version of their browser then they will blame the browser.
>
> This is a rather large assumption to make and, at the same time, I don’t
> think it is true. When users go to a slow-loading website, I think it’s
> much more likely they’ll blame the website developer. If an application
> runs slow on your OS, you wouldn’t blame it on the OS vendor. Similarly, if
> an application I just upgraded runs slow on my mobile device, I wouldn’t
> automatically assume it's the phone manufacturer.
>
I'm talking about the situation were they upgrade the browser and observe
that a known site runs slower afterwards than it did before. Nothing else
changed. Of course they gonna blame it on the browser update, and correctly
so.



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>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 7:55 AM kai zhu <kaizhu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 27, 2017, at 5:43 PM, Andreas Rossberg <rossb...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> That is not always true. For example, ES6 has caused some notable
>> performance regressions for ES5 code initially, due to extensions to the
>> object model that made it even more dynamic. The new @@-hooks were
>> particularly nasty and some cases required substantial amounts of work from
>> implementers just to get back close to the previous baseline performance.
>> Parsing also slowed down measurably. Moreover, many features tend to add
>> combinatorial complexity that can make the surface of "common cases" to
>> optimise for in preexisting features much larger.
>>
>>
>> I’ve noticed chrome 59 freezing more when initially loading pages.  Maybe
>> its due to performance-penalty of extra parser complexity, maybe not.
>> Also, the chrome-based electron-browser has gotten slower with each release
>> over the past year, when I use it to test mostly es5-based browser-code.
>> Can’t say about the other browser-vendors as I don’t use them as much.
>>
>
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