Yes, exactly. minification-tooling is a real-concern for any consumer-facing javascript-product, and not all of them want to rely on babel.
Are you arguing all new javascript-products should be coerced to integrate with babel, because it has a monopoly on such critical-tooling? On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 6:28 PM Jordan Harband <ljh...@gmail.com> wrote: > So effectively, you're arguing that stagnant tools should hold back > evolution of the language, even when non-stagnant alternatives exist? > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 3:26 PM kai zhu <kaizhu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Can you expand on what you mean by this, or provide an example of a >> > feature that can't be "easily minified”? >> >> fat-arrow/destructuring/es6-classes comes to mind. if you have legacy >> build-chain that doesn't use babel or terser, is it worth the effort to >> retool the minifier to support these syntaxes so you can use it? also any >> feature which introduce new symbol/symbol-combo which requires re-auditing >> minifier's regexp-detection (private-fields, optional-chaining, etc.). >> >> there’s also the argument using babel in minification-toolchain defeats >> the purpose of reducing code-size. >> >> > On 12 Feb 2019, at 4:02 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 7:44 AM kai zhu <kaizhu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> i think there’s an industry-painpoint (at least from my experience), >> of resistance adopting es6+ features because legacy-toolchains cannot be >> easily retooled to minify them. >> >> >> >> i’m not sure the best way to address this problem? i favor requiring 2 >> independent minifiers to be able to handle a stage3-proposal before >> advancement (indicating retooling is feasible), but that may be >> overly-restrictive to some folks. >> > >> > Can you expand on what you mean by this, or provide an example of a >> > feature that can't be "easily minified"? >> > >> > ~TJ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> es-discuss mailing list >> es-discuss@mozilla.org >> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >> >
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