Hey Guys- I may not have been looking in the right places but I'm having some frustrations with Etoile development at the moment. I've spent the better part of the last week trying to get an Etoile dev environment set up and I keep hitting roadblocks.
For starters, I think having a Development VM on the site is an awesome idea. Nothing could lower the barrier to entry more than having everything you need to get started with development already there. The problem is that the image is a year and a half old. I know it would be impossible to create a new appliance with every new update, but I think a few documents right on the desktop (does Etoile's environment support desktop icons?) or in the home directory would be wonderful. The first document that I would find helpful would be a "How do I get current" document. This should explain, hopefully with step by step instructions since the VM has a consistent platform, how to update GNUstep, update Etoile trunk, etc. as needed. The second document that would help is a "How to get started with Etoile development" doc. This could answer some of my questions when I ran the dev VM like what IDE (if any, I'm fine with emacs) do you use? Where do you get source to current projects? How can I install Etoile/GNUstep applications? The last document I think would be great would a "Finding help and moving forward" document. This could just be a list of all of the ways to get in touch and get involved with the Etoile community if you need support and to find out how to help. I'd be more than happy to help out by writing this documentation, but I need some help getting started, myself. What better way to get to know a project and get started than by getting everything set up and helping others do the same? I think I'll start with the dev VM since that will allow me to get to know the project without having to troubleshoot install issues for something I don't know much about. Could someone please give me some direction for how to get started with this information? I'm thinking mostly how to get the dev VM up to date. Is the GNUstep source on there and can I just do an 'svn up' and rebuild? Same for the etoile source. Also, can you give me an idea of what development environment you guys use so I can write a "quick start guide"? Do you use Project Center? Gorm? And lastly, since the dev VM seems pretty bare from what I've seen, how does one go about installing other Etoile/GNUstep software? Is there a repo do list projects from? A download site? Again, I don't want to just be on the mailing list so I can complain about it being too hard. I will keep plugging away, but I think the project could benefit from some good getting started docs and I'd like to help out in that regard just as soon as I figure out how to get started. Best Ryan
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