On 8/30/06, Alex Bravo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi to everyone involved in this project. I've just got in.

Not many days ago, I started a project called Utopia, which aimed to
provide an operating system with WindowMaker and GNUStep. They are
both great, but I personally thought they were lacking a good
look&feel, that's what the project was about initially: improve the
looks of both. But then I thought, why not go on? Maybe I could find
someone who was able to create a web browser, instant messenger,
etc... The goals of project are perfectly summarized in this two
(incomplete) mockups:

http://www.box.net/public/5vf0puyrnh

I didn't know about Étoilé, but when browsing the web trying to find
GNUstep apps and so on I finally ended up on the Étoilé project
website. Someone had thought about it first and it wasn't vaporware,
it wasn't dead. I didn't want to reinvent the wheel, and probably both
projects had much more similarities than differences. So I contacted
Nicolas and now I'm part of this. One of the mockups has been updated
to match Étoilé, at least, somewhat, as I still don't know much about
the whole thing.

http://www.box.net/public/nmcnahy3g3

Looks nice. I think we talked about having two general theme --
Nesedah (for working ;-) and one a bit more "funky"... This could be
something along those lines.

You can take a look there. There are two mockups: one, which is only
possible with transparency enabled, and the other, without it.
I'd like to know what you think of these mockups. I'd also like to
know about two things:

       * Is there a plan to make different icon themes possible? (Tango)

Yes. IconKit (which we should really finish...) is meant to
automatically deal with that.

        * Is ÉtoiléWildMenus themeable? I have taken a look at the CVS
snapshot, and it seems if you want to replace the theme you have to
overwrite files. Maybe it could be integrated with Camaelon for easier
theme-ability?

It certainly will be, but indeed at the moment it's using fixed values..

What I want to provide to this project is great looks and great
usability, together with Alexander (who designed the theme you see on
the mockups-if you are using WindowMaker, you might want to check
this: http://www.box.net/public/goup4ndx46).

As I told you before, it's great :-) -- we need more graphic work,
mockups, icons, etc. ..

Welcome aboard !

--
Nicolas Roard
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly
by." -- Douglas Adams

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