Le 16 avr. 07 à 21:27, Jesse Ross a écrit :

>> First, we need  Logout.app in svn so that bug can be fixed and  
>> tested.
>>   Second, we need a file manager for launching application.
>>   While discussion of object/project/file manager is still going,
>>   we can ship with OuterSpace for now as temporary solution.
>>   Actually the only use of it is to launch application on LiveCD.
>>   But I can image that once we release it, bug reports for UI will
>> flood in.
>
> I'm in favor of that. Could we rename the app to Workspace though? ;)
> It would be nice if our file manager always had a consistent name,
> even if the codebase underneath it changes completely (It's a
> marketing thing, I know...).

I'm not sure Workspace is a good choice because it overlaps with  
'Workspace' term used in other desktop environments which itself  
overlaps with 'Project' term in Étoilé. So I think it may be a good  
thing to find another name. That's why I decided to use 'Space'  
rather than 'Workspace' when working on my prototype.
Aside of that, I personally like 'Outerspace' too. Any other opinions?
I'm fine to ship with OuterSpace… I may try to find some times to  
make some UI refinements on it.
Should we plan another minor release for the LiveCD to fix major bugs  
found in the first weeks of public availability? Or rather just focus  
on release 0.2 itself and the next release 0.3 (with related LiveCD  
version)?

>> We do have some other improvements in the trunk, like sleep/
>> restart/shutdown.

I almost have a fully-working solution with gnome-power-manager. This  
would be a temporary solution for LiveCD. I have also started some  
early work on our own power management daemon. It needs to run as  
root. If you consider current System version runs with normal user  
privilege only, I cannot fit power management in System even as a  
temporary solution.

>>   So whoever wants his work in LiveCD can merge it into -stable.
>>   That is pretty much all we need.
>>   To make things easier, we can release only Etoile part, not  
>> GNUstep,
>>   more specifically, only an account for Etoile with 3rd party
>> application
>>   like DBModeller as we discussed.
>>   (We obviously need to ship GNUstep in any case).
>
> Yep -- I like this idea too. As was mentioned before, people who want
> to see GNUstep in all it's gray glory can download the GNUstep
> LiveCD. The Etoile LiveCD should be representative of our work and
> vision (and bugs).

Personally I don't really care whether there is a gnustep account or  
not. Yet it could be useful for demo. It's not our priority right now  
I admit.

>>   By the way, I think GNUstep is about to make new release based on
>> svn activities.
>>   I don't know when, but it would be an opportunity
>>   to make new release after GNUstep, not before,
>>   so that we can make sure Etoile work with GNUstep official release.
>>   It will also be easier for people who want to make packages of
>> Etoile.
>>   And for developers, we better to make sure -stable always work with
>> GNUstep release.
>
> Any guesses as to when that release may happen?

In the next days.

> Does the GNUstep team
> have a regular release cycle that we could track?

Not really until now, I would say this is going to change with the  
new GNUstep -stable branches.

Quentin.


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