On 4/16/07, Quentin Mathé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le 16 avr. 07 à 21:27, Jesse Ross a écrit :
>
> >> First, we need  Logout.app in svn so that bug can be fixed and
> >> tested.
> >>   Second, we need a file manager for launching application.
> >>   While discussion of object/project/file manager is still going,
> >>   we can ship with OuterSpace for now as temporary solution.
> >>   Actually the only use of it is to launch application on LiveCD.
> >>   But I can image that once we release it, bug reports for UI will
> >> flood in.
> >
> > I'm in favor of that. Could we rename the app to Workspace though? ;)
> > It would be nice if our file manager always had a consistent name,
> > even if the codebase underneath it changes completely (It's a
> > marketing thing, I know...).
>
> I'm not sure Workspace is a good choice because it overlaps with
> 'Workspace' term used in other desktop environments which itself
> overlaps with 'Project' term in Étoilé. So I think it may be a good
> thing to find another name. That's why I decided to use 'Space'
> rather than 'Workspace' when working on my prototype.
> Aside of that, I personally like 'Outerspace' too. Any other opinions?
> I'm fine to ship with OuterSpace… I may try to find some times to
> make some UI refinements on it.
> Should we plan another minor release for the LiveCD to fix major bugs
> found in the first weeks of public availability? Or rather just focus
> on release 0.2 itself and the next release 0.3 (with related LiveCD
> version)?
>
> >> We do have some other improvements in the trunk, like sleep/
> >> restart/shutdown.
>
> I almost have a fully-working solution with gnome-power-manager. This
> would be a temporary solution for LiveCD. I have also started some
> early work on our own power management daemon. It needs to run as
> root. If you consider current System version runs with normal user
> privilege only, I cannot fit power management in System even as a
> temporary solution.

  I wonder whether you use ACPI ?
  Is it platform dependent ?
  I guess platform support will be a lot of trouble for us in the future.
  That is why I prefer to use unix tool instead of libraries to do such thing.
  That is also a reason I choose mplayer over gstreamer for multimedia.
  For example, on OSX, probably FreeBSD also,
  you can simply run a NSTask of 'shutdown -r' for reboot.
  This approach is easier to me.
  The only thing is that you need to let users 'sudo',
  and gksudo may be a good starting point.

  Yen-Ju

>
> >>   So whoever wants his work in LiveCD can merge it into -stable.
> >>   That is pretty much all we need.
> >>   To make things easier, we can release only Etoile part, not
> >> GNUstep,
> >>   more specifically, only an account for Etoile with 3rd party
> >> application
> >>   like DBModeller as we discussed.
> >>   (We obviously need to ship GNUstep in any case).
> >
> > Yep -- I like this idea too. As was mentioned before, people who want
> > to see GNUstep in all it's gray glory can download the GNUstep
> > LiveCD. The Etoile LiveCD should be representative of our work and
> > vision (and bugs).
>
> Personally I don't really care whether there is a gnustep account or
> not. Yet it could be useful for demo. It's not our priority right now
> I admit.
>
> >>   By the way, I think GNUstep is about to make new release based on
> >> svn activities.
> >>   I don't know when, but it would be an opportunity
> >>   to make new release after GNUstep, not before,
> >>   so that we can make sure Etoile work with GNUstep official release.
> >>   It will also be easier for people who want to make packages of
> >> Etoile.
> >>   And for developers, we better to make sure -stable always work with
> >> GNUstep release.
> >
> > Any guesses as to when that release may happen?
>
> In the next days.
>
> > Does the GNUstep team
> > have a regular release cycle that we could track?
>
> Not really until now, I would say this is going to change with the
> new GNUstep -stable branches.
>
> Quentin.
>
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