On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Jason wrote:

> I'm Jason, a trilug'er (www.trilug.org) from Raleigh, NC, soon to be a
> euglug'er (following my old lady, who will be starting her phd at the
> U of O in September).

        Welcome to Eugene. I'm Ed Craig, ex-DPer (sometime in the early
'90's it became IT? I remember the Marketing/Human Resource making a Big
Thing of renaming the profession as I left it). Any way, I admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (because I can and have the time). I now drive a taxi, so
I can give advice.

> I'm a semi-longtime Linux user and work for a small security
> consultancy called @stake (www.atstake.com). I make a living doing
> network and application penetration testing, unix (sometimes Linux and
> the various BSDs, mostly Solaris) hardening, and various types of
> network security work.

        The local IT job market is moderately tight, but not impossible.  
> 
> Anyhoo, about my request for help - sorry it's off topic, but I know 0
> people in Eugene and Linux users tend to be friendly (generally). I am
> moving out to Eugene in early September and am in the unenviable
> position of possibly having to rent a house sight unseen. I have been
> to Eugene once, but only for 2 days, and am not that familiar with the
> area.

        Generally, avoid anything within about two blocks to the South,
and about six blocks to the West of the campus unless you really like the
jock/Greek/party culture with attendant keggers, followed by the Eugene
Police Department's efforts to shut them down, followed by riots and tear
gas. The riots are rare, maybe one a year, but the noise level around the
parties can be disturbing enough without the EPD's help.

> 
> I am hoping someone on the list who is familiar with the area might be
> able to make some recommendations on neighborhoods. If you wouldn't
> mind being this person, I'd just like to send along a few addresses,
> and hear any comments you have on the neighborhood/area. No need to
> actually check the place out, just a 'yeah, that's a good
> neighborhood' or 'no, that place is crap.' Or, if you happen to know
> any houses in the U of O area (bikeable distance) that will be coming
> up for rent around September 1, let me know.

        Most of Eugene is bikeable, the bike lanes and paths are
ubiquitous, check in with the Chamber of Commerce for a free, pretty good
bicycle street map.

        The off campus University housing complexes, Spencer View and
Westmoreland, are overrrun with graduate students, and fairly quiet. Both
are well outside the party/free fire zone.

        Anyway, send on addresses to the list and yeah, you'll get
reasonable (if varied) answers.

> 
> In exchange, I'd be happy to provide help with linux/unix/network
> security, etc., banjo or guitar instruction (I only suggest this if
> you are really crappy or a beginner, or a really crappy beginner), or
> beer (of course).

        Contribute to the list. Keep us amused. Be helpful. Keep yourself
amused. Realise that we don't take ourselves seriously until we're looking
for help, but help on this list is surprisingly useful, surprisingly
often. 

-- 
Ed Craig                        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Taxi (I need an income)         GNU/Linux (I can afford a Free OS)
Think this through with me, let me know your mind...    Hunter/Garcia

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