[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I disagree about the stability.  I have 4 Gentoo systems at home and
> work (2 are production) and find it more than stable enough *for what I
> use it for*.  The only time I've ever crashed Gentoo was a 1.2 system
> playing Unreal Tournament.  I've never had a 1.4 system crash.  The key
> to having a stable Gentoo system is the same as with any other OS-- pick
> your updates carefully.  When you get the hang of Gentoo, its true
> advantage-- ease of administration-- comes shining through.

I think we're using the term, "stable", differently.  Like you,
I have very few gentoo crashes to report, none that I remember,
though I've seen the X server lose its mind a couple of times.
But when I update the boxes, either the update fails and
requires manual intervention, or things that were working
stop working.

Today, I have four bugs, each of which used to work a few days/
weeks/months ago.

    DPMS doesn't work.  The monitor never goes into power save mode.

    libavifile and transcode each require a specific version of
    divx4linux, and the two versions can't cohabit.  But transcode
    (the most recent unmasked version) doesn't declare its
    dependency, it just breaks.

    openquicktime and libquicktime conflict, yet some package
    (transcode, I think) depends on both.  This means I can't
    "emerge world" until I figure out how to resolve it.

    distcc hangs on two of my boxes.

I filed bugs on the divx4linux and distcc problems, but didn't get
meaningful responses.  On the distcc bug, someone sent me mail saying
he had deleted my bug report and created a new one, but I couldn't
find the new one using any search terms I could think of.  On the
divx4linux problem, I just got a message telling me to "emerge sync",
even though I'd stated in the bug report that I'd synced the same day.

I appreciate that the bug triage people are volunteers and that
they see many bugs, so they can't spend forever on a bug.  But
they ought to at least read the things, or what's the point?

-- 
Bob Miller                              K<bob>
kbobsoft software consulting
http://kbobsoft.com                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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