On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 03:46:49AM -0700, Alan wrote:
> >A larger organization (large enough to wire a city) can't get away with an
> >open access point like a little coffee shop can.  If they do, who knows
> >what will be done with it.  The university's decision to limit access to
> >people they can track is correct.
> 
> And which Federal regulations govern who can connect to a state-owned 
> and operated network?

Let's start with USA PATRIOT, which requires that ISPs know who is
connecting to them and be able to produce that information if a court
orders that they do so.  Information as to who had what IP address and
when being stored by ISPs and turned over to law enforcement officers as
ordered by the court predates even widespread dialup internet access.


> Besides which, considering that I can take my laptop over to the library 
> and plug into a random ethernet port with no trouble whatsoever, I don't 
> think keeping people off the wireless is that much of a solution.

And if you do something illegal in the library, expect a couple of DPS
officers to show up with a network operations guy in tow.


> Regardless, I'm not asking for an open access point. I'd be quite happy 
> to go down to Computing Services(or whoever), show them my proof of 
> Oregon residence, and fill out a form.

But you are asking for it to be free.

Clue: I pay about $100 a term in mandatory technology fees, even though I
don't take classes which would use them.  Most of that pays for my share
of the internet access and general-access on-campus labs.  How much of
your taxes do you think go to cover my internet access?  Do you know how
much of the University's budget comes from state monies?  Government
monies in general?  It's a pretty low percentage, really.


> If I can do it to take a library book, I should be able to do it for 
> wireless.

The library is subsidized.  Wireless access isn't.  Besides, last I heard,
you couldn't commit credit card fraud by reading a library book (unless
the library has started to carry books far more controversial than I'd
ever imagined, of course.)

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