My favorite IDE when I have actually used one is SlickEdit. Yes it
costs money (unfortunately $284 which is kinda pricey), but You can
customize pretty much everything. It supports Java as well as a C, C++,
Python, and a whole raft of other languages. It will happily use
whichever compiler you tell it as a backend, and use whatever app you
specify as the editor. You can add and subtract buttons from the
interface.
Also, from the docs it looks like you could configure Eclipse to use vi
as its primary editor if you wanted.
-Mike
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 08:07, Walter Hurst wrote:
> I had tried many Java IDEs before and kept going back to vi. Most of
> the IDEs were cumbersome - both to use and in memory/CPU consumption.
> I've been using eclipse for about a year and have to say I'm
> convinced that it is better than just using an editor (which is a big
> switch for me). It has great Ant and CVS integration. It does
> constant code verification looking for potential problems (unused
> variables, using deprecated methods, etc.) and gives easy to see (and
> easy to ignore if thats your situation) indicators of the status. It
> handles inter-project dependencies, manages your classpath, and does
> constant compiling (efficiently). And once I got a vi plugin I was
> back in business (the vi plugin is only 50% there, but it is better
> than having to use a mouse when editing). I still pull up VIM outside
> of eclipse when I need to do some editing that I know I can do
> quicker in a real vi tool. Then you refresh and your changes are in
> eclipse and away you go. For a team I'd say its a must have. Even in
> my situation, where I'm the primary (er... only) architect/developer,
> it is still hard to imagine not using it.
>
> Walter.
>
> On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:00 AM, Max Lemieux wrote:
>
> > Pretty much all the Java devs where I work use Eclipse, for what
> > it's worth. When I ask questions about some part of the codebase,
> > their first response is "do you have Eclipse installed?" It is a
> > significant boon to working on Java projects, especially larger
> > ones, for the reasons Ralph mentions. It also has CVS integration,
> > Tomcat controls etc. and is cross-platform.
> >
> > -Max
> >
> >
> > Rob Hudson wrote:
> >
> >> Ralph Zeller wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 10/12/05 12am, larry price wrote:
> >>> By the way, what's a good IDE to use with Java? My son is taking a
> >>> beginning Java class, and he's using "eclipse" as a development
> >>> interface. It seems pretty cumbersome, and so does "netbeans," but
> >>> maybe that's just my perspective as a complete novice to Java
> >>> also--is
> >>> there something else that works better for a newbee learning Java?
> >>>
> >> I've used eclipse for some of my classes at th UofO. Personally,
> >> I kind of like it. I usually prefer just a good text editor (and
> >> missed my vi commands in the built-in editor) but the IDE added a
> >> lot. It may be overkill but it is helpful. It has a constant
> >> compile thing in the background that notifies you of errors as you
> >> go (you used such and such object but didn't import it, you
> >> didn't catch the appropriate error, etc). It has the intellisense
> >> stuff which I found useful. And building the project seemed to
> >> work easily enough.
> >> -Rob
> >>
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