I really love this line " > If you can't drink, you're not really ready for IT anyway...". Not that I > have any particular love of alcohol, but I have noted that IT people seem to > get some really annoying demands placed upon them. As such, I can see how > not being able to have a beer with the other IT people after work would suck. -E -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: euglug@euglug.org Sent: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 9:17 AM Subject: RE: [Eug-lug] New IT Group in Eugene, OR Lemme echo the "it gets better..." I started my IT career at 22 in upstate NY - after getting my AS degree like you, by working full time at a convenience store and going to school at the same time (I didn't bust my ass quite so hard as it took me a good 4 years or so). The organization I worked for back then served school districts, and even at 22 I was still "babyface", so in schools I faced a lot of distrust, not to mention being mistaken for a student whenever I went into a high school (name badge or not). For a number of years I was really frustrated by the age discrimination, coming from our customers and even from people in our own organization. I don't want to try to offer you advice really, because I didn't have any magic formula for dealing with it (altho, joke or not, it sure helps once you hit 21 ;) ), but I've found that people eventually come around, you just have to work a little harder to earn their trust when you're "the kid". Personally, I'm not good at kissing ass, so I tended to just ignore people and get the job done, and eventually they come around (it really helps if you have a supportive supervisor). - Jason L. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Barrett Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:27 PM To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] New IT Group in Eugene, OR Heh, it gets better with time -- not quickly.... but it gets better. <ranty bits> sorta like an IT hazing :) sorry, I grew up in a college town that was much more greek-oriented than Eugene! "Thank you sir, may I have another!" The soreness you're experiencing will feel "good" after enough conditioning. </rant> ben On 2/27/07, Jared Ubelhor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >And apparently lost your sense of humor in the process It's a little hard to keep when my knowledge and skills are always being underestimated due to my age. It's a bit of a sore subject. On 2/27/07, Mr O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tell that to the 10 year old with a MS Cert http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/232514_msftarfa14.html --- Alan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about people like me who are still trying to get > started in the I.T. > > world? > > > > I've never been to this Eugene City Brewery. Sounds like I'd > have to be 21 > > to get in? If that's the case I'm not invited I suppose. >=| > > > > If you can't drink, you're not really ready for IT anyway... > > -ajb > ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news _______________________________________________ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug _______________________________________________ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug _______________________________________________ EUGLUG mailing list euglug@euglug.org http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
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