I really love this line "
 > If you can't drink, you're not really ready for IT anyway...". Not that I 
 > have any particular love of alcohol, but I have noted that IT people seem to 
 > get some really annoying demands placed upon them. As such, I can see how 
 > not being able to have a beer with the other IT people after work would suck.
 
 -E
    
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 To: euglug@euglug.org
 Sent: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 9:17 AM
 Subject: RE: [Eug-lug] New IT Group in Eugene, OR
 
  Lemme echo the "it gets better..."   I started my IT career at 22 in upstate 
NY - after getting my AS degree like you, by working full time at a convenience 
store and going to school at the same time (I didn't bust my ass quite so hard 
as it took me a good 4 years or so). The organization I worked for back then 
served school districts, and even at 22 I was still "babyface", so in schools I 
faced a lot of distrust, not to mention being mistaken for a student whenever I 
went into a high school (name badge or not). For a number of years I was really 
frustrated by the age discrimination, coming from our customers and even from 
people in our own organization.   I don't want to try to offer you advice 
really, because I didn't have any magic formula for dealing with it (altho, 
joke or not, it sure helps once you hit 21 ;) ), but I've found that people 
eventually come around, you just have to work a little harder to earn their 
trust when you're "the kid". Personally, I'm not good at kissing ass, so I 
tended to just ignore people and get the job done, and eventually they come 
around (it really helps if you have a supportive supervisor).   - Jason L.   
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Barrett
 Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:27 PM
 To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group
 Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] New IT Group in Eugene, OR
 
   Heh, it gets better with time -- not quickly.... but it gets better.
 
 <ranty bits> sorta like an IT hazing :)
 sorry, I grew up in a college town that was much more greek-oriented than 
Eugene!
 "Thank you sir, may I have another!" 
 The soreness you're experiencing will feel "good" after enough conditioning.
 </rant>
 
 ben
 
 
 On 2/27/07, Jared Ubelhor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >And apparently lost your 
sense of humor in the process
 
 It's a little hard to keep when my knowledge and skills are always being 
underestimated due to my age.
 It's a bit of a sore subject. 
 
 On 2/27/07, Mr O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Tell that to the 10 year old with 
a MS Cert
 http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/232514_msftarfa14.html 
 
 
 --- Alan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 > > What about people like me who are still trying to get
 > started in the I.T.
 > > world?
 > >
 > > I've never been to this Eugene City Brewery. Sounds like I'd 
 > have to be 21
 > > to get in? If that's the case I'm not invited I suppose. >=|
 > >
 >
 > If you can't drink, you're not really ready for IT anyway...
 >
 > -ajb 
 >
 
 
 
 
 
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