Just to throw out a possibility you may not have considered; Amazon sells a linux based portable device that can run a calendar and serve as a ssh terminal and only costs $139 for the basic version with wifi.
It's called a kindle. See: http://kindlehacks.blogspot.com/ http://www.griffin.net/2010/01/hacking-the-amazon-kindle-dx-part-1.html http://hackaday.com/tag/kindle/ Just a thought. On Oct 7, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Allen Brown wrote: > The calendar programs I have played with during this search > have all been weak compared to the one on Palm. I'm > hoping I will be able to live with whichever I end up with. > -- > Allen Brown abrown at peak.org http://brown.armoredpenguin.com/~abrown/ > A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on > military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching > spiritual doom. --- Martin Luther King > >> On Thursday 07 October 2010 19:10:07 Allen Brown wrote: >>> Very interesting! That's a much more comfortable price. >>> >>> I understand the G1 was later replaced by the G2. >> >> The G2 is just now coming onto the market from T-Mobile. >> >> I think the G1 was suggested because it is an excellent Android >> phone but since it was the first Google phone it is now somewhat >> dated when compared to the latest smartphone offerings. >> >>> Do either of these have advantages for this kind of application? >> >> I have a Palm TX and I have yet to find anything that is as >> functional as its >> calendar. That said I get along with my Nexus One just fine. >> >>> I don't use any calendar service. I'm not on google. I >>> plan to use this stand-alone. If I back it up, it will >>> be directly to my desktop. If that's possible. >>> >>>> From what I've heard android won't back up to anything >>> >>> other than google calendar. >>> >>> The windoze mobile solution seems neither desirable nor >>> necessary. I would bite into the Apple first. >>> >>>> As I was saying, I'm with you in wanting no part of a mobile >>>> data plan. So what I did was buy a rooted HTC Dream (DBA >>>> T-Mobile G1). I got a good deal because it had a broken >>>> screen which i was able to replace, but $70-$100 is >>>> reasonable for this phone. Here's a G1 on craigslist for $100: >>>> http://eugene.craigslist.org/mob/1993167760.html >>>> >>>> As I was saying, a stock G1 won't let you use it without a >>>> working data plan, so look for a rooted phone. Barring that, >>>> have the data plan activated, and follow these instructions >>>> >>>> to root your phone: >>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480. >>>> >>>> After that, I highly recommend installing Cyanogenmod 6, a >>>> fast and stable, up-to-date custom Android ROM. The easiest >>>> way to do it is by downloading ROM Manager from the android >>>> market, going into the app and selecting "download ROM", then >>>> "cyanogenmod", pick 6.0.0 stable, let it do its thing, and >>>> you're done. If you really want to get fancy you can even run >>>> Debian on it. I'm happy to help, it can be confusing and a >>>> bit intimidating at first, >>>> but it's really foolproof and simple when you get down to it. >>>> >>>> Another thing I did before I got my G1 was buy a windows >>>> mobile phone with wi-fi. The one I got, the HTC Titan (AKA >>>> Verizon XV6800, Sprint PPC6800, etc etc) didn't ever need a >>>> data connection to get working. I don't know what calendar >>>> service you use, but google has a guide for using exchange with >>>> its services, so I had gmail, calendar, contacts, all synced to >>>> this phone I found on ebay for $30. Throw in the Opera Mini >>>> browser and it's a somewhat decent MID, throw in a microSD card >>>> and you can listen to MP3s. Any windows mobile 5 or higher >>>> phone will work. I know, cringe, it's windows, but it's used >>>> and you can use the money you saved to donate to the linux >>>> foundation or something. >>>> >>>> This is kind of my thing, in case you didn't notice. I'd be >>>> happy to work with you on finding a good solution. >>>> Nicholas Chase >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 13:32, Nicholas Chase >>>> >>>> <nick.nchas...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> I got a G1 off craigslist for exactly this reason. It takes a bit of >>>>> doing >>>>> to set up to use without a contract. I'll have more details after I >>>>> catch >>>>> my bus. >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 7, 2010 1:23 PM, "Allen Brown" <abr...@peak.org> wrote: >>>>>> Years ago I bought a Palm Z22 for $99. It recently died. I need >>>>>> to replace it. Naturally I would prefer something that runs >>>>>> Linux. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cost matters, of course. But the Palm Z22 price has gone up. >>>>>> Weird! It is now $150. It is also an HP product. Once upon >>>>>> a time that would have given it favor in my mind. But HP has >>>>>> gone evil, so now they get no favor. >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought an Archos 32 would do the trick. The size is good. >>>>>> The price is $150. I actually bought one before I found out >>>>>> it totally does not meet my needs. I returned it. >>>>>> The other Archos pads may have calendar capability. I didn't >>>>>> check. They are too big. >>>>>> >>>>>> The most important function of the PDA for me is the calendar. >>>>>> It has to beep at me to warm me of appointments. Without that, >>>>>> it is worthless to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Being able to connect to the web (in a pinch) would be >>>>>> nice, but is not required. The Z22 can't do that. All the >>>>>> other products I'm aware of, can. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Archos 32 is worthless to me. It has no calendar function >>>>>> with alarms. And no internal speaker. Even if it had a calendar >>>>>> function I would have to walk around with ear buds to hear the >>>>>> alarms. Boo. >>>>>> >>>>>> Two Linux products which appear to have the functionality I >>>>>> require are the Droid and the Nokia N900. Both are approx >>>>>> $400. Both are also mobile phones. I don't need (or want) >>>>>> a mobile. I definitely don't want to be tied to a phone >>>>>> company to get the functionality of the device. And that price >>>>>> is too much for a very fancy alarm watch. But if I do buy >>>>>> a mobile it has to be capable of international use (GSM) >>>>>> and it has to be unlocked. >>>>>> >>>>>> The only other product I've found which comes close is the >>>>>> Apple iPod Touch for $230. That's still pretty expensive. >>>>>> But I am considering it. But I really would prefer to avoid >>>>>> Apple's "walled garden". The company is too hostile to Linux >>>>>> for my taste. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is a summary: >>>>>> Palm Z22 $150 >>>>>> + Good calendar >>>>>> - More expensive than it's worth >>>>>> Archos 32 $150 >>>>>> - No alarm capabilities. Worthless >>>>>> Nokia N900 GSM $400 >>>>>> + Adequate calendar >>>>>> - Much too expensive >>>>>> Droid GSM $420 >>>>>> + Adequate calendar >>>>>> - Much much too expensive >>>>>> Apple iPod Touch $230 >>>>>> + Adequate calendar >>>>>> - Somewhat expensive >>>>>> - Apple company is hostile to Linux >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there other products out there that I should consider? >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Allen Brown abrown at peak.org >>>>> >>>>> http://brown.armoredpenguin.com/~abrown/<http://brown.armoredpenguin.com >>>>> /%7Eabrown/> >>>>> >>>>>> Humanity has the stars in its future, and that future is >>>>>> too important to be lost under the burden of juvenile folly >>>>>> and ignorant superstition. --- Carl Sagan >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> EUGLUG mailing list >>>>>> euglug@euglug.org >>>>>> http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> EUGLUG mailing list >>> euglug@euglug.org >>> http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug >> _______________________________________________ >> EUGLUG mailing list >> euglug@euglug.org >> http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > EUGLUG mailing list > euglug@euglug.org > http://www.euglug.org/mailman/listinfo/euglug
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