Mr. Rogers personally shaped the minds of millions of kids during the
70s, 80s and 90s with his show "Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood" - a show
dealing with life from a child's point of view.  It was an extremely
popular show on PBS (still is).

If you have never seen a show, I would suggest trying to.  It explains a
great deal of the culture we have come to know and love.

Joe Latrell

P.S.  It's still a beautiful day in the neighborhood, even though Mr.
Rogers has moved on.


On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 16:25, Keira McKenzie wrote:
> Who is Mister Rogers & why is he a dark portent?
> I agree with everything else, & will be sad to see Galileo go as well.  But Mister 
> Rogers?
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: LARRY KLAES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     To: europa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     Date: Thursday, 27 February 2003 3:14 
>     Subject: Our long-term future on Earth and beyond
>     
>     
>     My personal recommendation for a space-rock-threatens
>     to-wipe-out-Earth film is 1998's Deep Impact.  While not
>     perfect, it was far more realistic in showing how a comet
>     could destroy humanity and our potential reaction to having
>     some advance notice of the news.
>     
>     http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/movies/di.html
>     
>     Of course Armageddon might resonate better with a public
>     that is not very discriminatory when it comes to science
>     accuracy in films - or bad acting and plotting:
>     
>     http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/movies/armageddon.html
>     
>     
>     But I heartily agree with Robert about the need to preserve
>     humanity in some form beyond Earth.  With the way we are
>     going now, who needs a giant space rock to destroy us.
>     
>     I don't care what the masses think of the idea.  Their 
>     thoughts are too narrowly focused in space and time to
>     see the big picture and know what is truly good for them.
>     If I worried about public opinion, I never would have
>     suggested Icepick or dealt with space all my life at all.
>     
>     http://www.longnow.org/
>     
>     Columbia tears apart in space, Pioneer 10 stops transmitting
>     to Earth, and now Mister Rogers dies.  You tell me these 
>     aren't the signs of something bad coming (said only half
>     facetiously).
>     
>     Larry
>     
>     
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Gary McMurtry
>         Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:30 AM
>         To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         Subject: Re: Columbia analysis and space exploration
>         
>         
>         Robert, et al.,
>         
>         I am among the billions of Earthlings that have not yet seen the movie 
>         "Armageddon", but I know from previews that it stars Bruce Willis and the 
>         Space Shuttle (I think).  However, I know what you are referring to as NEO 
>         impacts are indeed nasty events, with devastating consequences for our 
>         civilization, or at least parts of it, depending on the size and location 
>         of the impact.  I believe the small ones typically hit Earth on the order 
>         of every 100,000 years, on average.  Big ones, like the K-T Impactor, on 
>         the order of every 30 million years or so.  Just look at a Geologic Time 
>         Scale--about every Period boundary has probably recorded a major impact 
>         event, with sudden and significant changes in the flora and fauna--the 
>         boundary catastrophies that Georges Cuvier first noted about 200 years ago.
>         
>         Anyway, as some of you who have seen the Discovery Channel program "Mega 
>         Tsunami" may know (co-starring Yours Truly--blush), we also have "a little 
>         problem" right here on Earth, namely the flank collapse of oceanic island 
>         volcanoes.  They also occur on the order of every 100,000 years, on 
>         average.  We can predict where, but presently not exactly when or how, 
>         future collapses will occur.  Like the NEO threat, it has been difficult to 
>         obtain sufficient funds to study this problem, although the threat is 
>         clearly there, and the consequences severe.
>         
>         Anyway, I tend to agree with the trend that we will all look foolish 
>         indeed, if once we establish the cure for cancer or that bacterial life 
>         flourishes and even octopuses swim in the Europan Ocean, one day the sky 
>         goes bright and suddenly our home in Kansas is awash in seawater.
>         
>         Gary
>         
>         At 08:35 PM 2/26/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>         
>         
>         >(I wrote much of this first to Bruce and John offlist,
>         >but I realized upon re-reading that it might have general
>         >list significance.)
>         >
>         >I would tend to agree with John that we may want to simply
>         >let the investigation run its course.
>         >
>         >Unfortunately the news media seem to be turning up revealing
>         >details.
>         >
>         >In Intense Debate, Engineers Predicted Extent of Liftoff Damage
>         >Matthew L. Wald and William J. Broad.
>         >NY Times, Feb. 27, 2003:
>         
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/27/national/nationalspecial/27SHUT.html?pagewanted=print
>         >
>         >To NASA's credit, they are being very open and quick about
>         >revealing details of internal discussions.
>         >
>         >But it would appear that before the shuttles can fly again
>         >some significant refinement is going to be required to both
>         >the external tank bipod attachment as well as the wheel well
>         >areas.  Not trivial upgrades.
>         >
>         >(Yes, Bruce, I know you would probably like to scratch the
>         >whole mess (shuttles, ISS, etc.) but being realistic, I
>         >really doubt that is likely to occur.)
>         >
>         >To really push that concept you (Bruce) need to present a really
>         >good alternative to not "how do we explore the solar system?"
>         >but "how do we save humanity?".  There are people who inherently
>         >grasp the priorities.  The "exploration" part is pointless without
>         >the "saving" part.
>         >
>         >There are just *too* many people that have seen Armageddon and
>         >the very best argument one could make in the world (peer reviewed,
>         >signed and stamped by numerous experts, etc.) doesn't carry *any*
>         >weight against Liv Tyler's tears.
>         >
>         >It doesn't matter that the risks (to humanity) are low, and perhaps
>         >going lower (cite many of Larry Klaes's recent msgs).  What matters
>         >is that every single human being knows that if they end up on the wrong
>         >side of the dice roll that everything that they have ever done,
>         >worked for, hoped for, desired, etc. would be pointless.
>         >
>         >I'll freely admit that probably billions of humans are not up
>         >to that level of awareness (perhaps all those that haven't
>         >seen Armageddon) -- but they would all appreciate the concept.
>         >Hope & desire seem likely to be key aspects of what gets us
>         >out of bed in the morning.  Remove those (say through the discovery
>         >of an incoming NEO that we cannot prevent) and it seems probable
>         >that one destroys key aspects of humanity if not humanity itself.
>         >
>         >Robert
>         >
>         >
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