Peter VanDerWal wrote:

> Typical BS and lies.  Their reports don't match independant reports.

Agreed.

> 
> They claim 144.8V at the end of testing while others report 139V. 
>  144.8V would indicate that the batteries still retain most of their 
> charge.  139V indicate that the batteries were seriously OVER 
> discharged, Note this is 139V WITH NO LOAD and presumably taken at
> least a minute or two after the load was removed, I'd bet they
> reversed a couple cells.

I believe the original report stated that the 139V figure was observed
after a 5min rest.

However, even the 144.8V value after recovery indicates a completely
dead pack, albeit one without any reversed cells.  144.8V is just
2.01Vpc ~with no load~, and my understanding is that a pack standing at
2.00Vpc no load is dead.

> Claiming the vehicle has a max range of 10 miles without 
> their device is pure BS.   They state they are using
> ordinary car batteries.

The original report claimed 144V of marine batteries.  I think 'ordinary
car batteries' can, at this point only be inferred to mean 12V PbA,
unless you can make out any identifying characteristics from the vehicle
photos on their site.

The claim of a max. battery only range of 10mi is based on a supposed
test run without their device in which they ran out of juice after just
9.8mi of driving (not necessarily steady-state driving like on the test
track Sept. 7th, mind you).

> His car has 12 batteries, compare this to my truck which has
> 15 batteries.  That means he has roughly 20% less energy than
> my truck has.

Doesn't your truck have 15 flooded 8VGC batteries at ~65lbs each?  I
would think that is considerably more energy than 12 'ordinary car size'
12V batteries at ~35-40lbs each, and still more than even a set of 12
group 27-ish size marine batteries.

> All this event proves is that Tilley can't even build an ordinary EV 
> with a decent range.

One of the media reports that a link was posted to mentions that the
Tilley EV weighs 6000lbs; seems awfully heavy for a car with probably
only 500-800lbs of batteries onboard.  Is a Delorean glider that
bloated? Is the reporter screwing up his facts (or just being fed
a[nother] line from the Tilley people)?

Abysmal range aside, they did build a very nice ~looking~ EV.

Cheers,

Roger.

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