And how does "the grid" store it??

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From: "1sclunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: amazing! Tilley Electric Vehicle TEV) tests


> The scam is so simple that no one on the list though of it . I did bring
up
> the old short out the battery then hook a small motor up to it and as the
> battery recovery from the shook ,the voltage will rise and start the
"Magic
> Motor" turning giving the appearance of you know what. The reason for
going
> so fast was to load the batteries hard so as when the load was taken off
the
> voltage with rise ( any one with a electric car has seen this)
> why is a solar panel not a Magic box .or a wind mill pulling energy form
> nowhere. Is it because we understand it .  My dream would be solar panels
> and windmills on every house. the grid to store and share .  This idea
that
> we can't be unconvinced by having to control our usage of electricity and
> must be able to have as much as we want at any time shows how spoiled we
are
> . Back up power for the thing that "must run always" Lets start enjoying
> those brown outs ect, If the horse your riding get tired then get off and
> walk with him don't wipe him till he falls down dead he is you friend.
> I would like to see the above printed in a news paper in referenct to the
> Tilley event .
>
> "The Pollution of the plant is only an outward reflection of an inner
> psychic pollution of millions of unconscious individuals not taking
> responsibility for their inner space."  Elkhart tolle in "the power of
NOW"
>
> I though I smelled monkeys but it was just crap
> Steve Clunn  1sclunn-at- msn.com (come by and I'll give you a ride in my
> electric car :-) and see the tellay magic on my meter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon "Sheer" Pullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 11:43 PM
> Subject: Re: amazing! Tilley Electric Vehicle TEV) tests
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter VanDerWal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 3:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: amazing! Tilley Electric Vehicle TEV) tests
> >
> >
> > > Typical BS and lies.  Their reports don't match independant reports.
> > >
> > > They claim 144.8V at the end of testing while others report 139V.
> > >  144.8V would indicate that the batteries still retain most of their
> > > charge.  139V indicate that the batteries were seriously OVER
> > > discharged, Note this is 139V WITH NO LOAD and presumably taken at
least
> > > a minute or two after the load was removed, I'd bet they reversed a
> > > couple cells.
> >
> > I think you're reading too much into 5V difference. Either way, 144 is
> well
> > below charge hysteresis for lead acid batteries, so the batteries
weren't
> > 'being charged'. In any case, 144V on a 144V nominal pack is 12V a
> battery,
> > which unladen means those batteries were basically bone dry, every
> watt-hour
> > possible had been wrung.
> >
> >
>
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